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March 06, 2006

A.k.a. Dummy Awards (updated)Film

M. Night Shyamalan had a two-minute-long AmEx ad on the Oscars telecast tonight (watch or download — thanks, Arzan and Sonia). The ad was lots of fun, a riff on Shyamalan’s odd worlds. Manoj Night was all slicked out in necklace, fitted suit and fancy haircut. Ennis Del Mar would approve.

I heard there was a short Ismail Merchant clip in the obituary montage. Sajit adds that Aishwarya Rai’s L’Oreal ad was shown at the end.

Out of the nominees, here are my personal should-have-beens (see also the complete list of winners):

Picture: Munich (winner: Crash)

Director: Steven Spielberg for Munich (winner: Ang Lee for Brokeback Mountain)

Actor: Joaquin Phoenix for Walk the Line (winner: Philip Seymour Hoffman for Capote). It’s a travesty that Reese Witherspoon won her Best Actress award for Walk the Line, while Phoenix, the movie’s heart, was jilted for his dark, intense performance.

Yes, Hoffman disappeared entirely inside that role like a good interper, in a way you rarely see any more. But the faults of the rest of the movie bleed over. Capote was so slow and aggressively anti-stim, so sensory isolationist, it literally almost put me to sleep in the theater, slower than watching paint dry. As Anthony Lane wrote about a different film, it had ‘the touch of mummification which wins awards’ and an elegiac tone that was stultifying.

Crash blindly jabbed your emotional buttons. It was a race drama by the guy who wrote Million Dollar Baby, and about as subtle, i.e. not at all. It felt as pointlessly corrosive as downing a bottle of Tabasco sauce, making it upsetting to sit through, every key character spewing racist invective. It felt like reading Usenet: messy, undirected, didn’t go anywhere. You’ve got my time, now make a point.

The movie was way too pat, like feature columnists in small papers in the ‘burbs. Everyone just happened to bump into everyone else in the L.A. urban sprawl. I’ve seen that narrative structure before, but it wasn’t used well here — it was utterly contrived. The carjackers were like scholars. The Latino dude who lived in a ghetto barely had any accent. If you’re going to deal with race, be accurate. This movie veered into Lifetime schmaltz often, as mawkish as much of Bollywood.

I liked Munich a lot. It felt artistic without being showy — Spielberg played with visual filters and style the entire movie, it felt inventive and deeply personal. The script was pretty subtle for Hollywood, playwright Tony Kushner’s touch.

Host Jon Stewart was strangely slow and restrained, much less entertaining than usual. In years past, Billy Crystal actually had more zing.

Was Ang Lee’s win the first for an Asian-American director? I loved his shout-out in Chinese to his peeps at the end.

Like every year, the technical categories’ acceptance speeches felt more or less real, while all the actors’ speeches struck me as pre-rehearsed and overacted. Much gagging. And aside from Ben Stiller’s green-suit antics and the brilliant, in-jokey Robert Altman parody by Meryl Streep and Lily Tomlin, the tone of the entire production was unbelievably sedate and establishment for a profession which is a hothouse of nonconformists. Someone could do well with an alternative, rockin’ Oscars.

Here’s Anna’s liveblog and fashion commentary.

Update: Watch Jon Stewart’s opening monologue.

manish on March 6, 2006 12:02 AM in Film · T·r·a·c·k·b·a·c·k address · Direct link · Email post



73 comments

 1 · Pattie Kaur on March 6, 2006 12:16 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

m. night shyamalan and ang lee rock. i ignored the dummy awards, but wohhoo to those two!


 2 · arZan on March 6, 2006 12:19 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

The actual film can be seen online here directly


 3 · No Desh - an utterly disgusted viewer of the Oscars on March 6, 2006 12:22 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I'm extremely disappointed that Good Night and Good Luck as well as Paradise Now didn't win. I thought for sure if they gave Lee the nod for director, that they would split the political/social message with GNGL. I think the look on the Crash people said it quite well - they were as shocked as anyone else.

So Academy, you really had a chance to send a message about current policies and B.S. with GNGL or even Syriana (I unfortunately have not yet seen the latter) but you blew it.

The only saving graces were Stewart's banter and Clooney's remarks.


 4 · Kom on March 6, 2006 12:41 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Snooze fest! Jon Stewart was pretty decent but hampered by a very self-involved audience who barely condescended to laugh at his jokes. The montage of "epic films" was full of more recent movies that are anything but at the expense of some of Hollywood's truly great epics that barely got a mention or were ignored altogether. The montage of departed celebrities elicited barely any response from the audience, proving that they don't even know many of the people who preceded them or who were even contemporary to them or just didn't care. The only good thing besides Stewart was the March of the Penguins win. This ceremony and the actors and the movies become blander by the year.


 5 · Pattie Kaur on March 6, 2006 01:53 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

thanks arzan! i was hoping i wouldn't miss the best part of the whole thing!


 6 · Pattie Kaur on March 6, 2006 02:36 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

oh, and m. night is cute too!


 7 · ZiMbo on March 6, 2006 04:27 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I feel you judged Crash a bitt too harshly just because it beat a movie the you wanted to win. If you didnt get the direction of it all then I guess you are out of the target market for that movie. I believe it apealed to the more errr "Intelligent people" who can follow a complex plot. Munich ia a really good movie I agree but I found crash to be more intriguing.


 8 · Al_Mujahid_for_debauchery on March 6, 2006 07:20 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I think Hollywood is too scared of crazed Zionists to give any big award to Munich. Even supposedly mainstream Zionists like Charles Krauthammer (Washington Post) and anti-Likud Jews like David Brooks (NYTimes) savaged the movie and the movie maker in their op-ed pieces for showing the humanity of the Palestinian terrorists. OMG! next they will make a movie and say the word 'occupation'.


 9 · chai on March 6, 2006 08:20 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

i'm proud to see that the short doc on Norman Corwin's life won. I had the pleasure of watching it this weekend and it resonated with me and the entire audience. If you get a chance, watch the movie or listen to Corwin's poetry and how all of his words regarding World War II mimic our lives now, 60 odd years later.

i'm also proud to see the foreign film Tsotsi win.


 10 · MD on March 6, 2006 09:24 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

The best part of the Oscar show was "It's Hard Out Here for a Pimp." You see, in the Pimp-Ho relationship, it's clearly the Pimp who has the raw end of that deal.

Classy.


 11 · MD on March 6, 2006 09:25 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Al M - huh?


 12 · Ros on March 6, 2006 09:31 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Am I alone in thinking that M. Night is really good-looking? :)


 13 · Janeofalltrades on March 6, 2006 09:48 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Am I alone in thinking that M. Night is really good-looking? :)

Nope I think he's a hottie too...mostly cause of his demeanor and accomplishments. And I had the biggest crush on a guy once who is a dead ringer for him.


 14 · Sonia on March 6, 2006 09:57 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I wish they had shown more of the non-black audience member faces during the "It's hard out here for a pimp" performance =)


 15 · DesiDancer on March 6, 2006 10:09 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I liked "Crash" for the most part, and I can give them the points for trying to make the statement. I did have a small problem with the fact that every character redeemed themself somehow, except for the Asians. That's kind of uncool.


 16 · KXB on March 6, 2006 10:13 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Catherine Seipp, a regular contributor to National Review, argued that Crash represents Westwood's take on racial interaction in LA. For the rest of Angelenos, most interactions are far more ordinary.

Segregated Screenwriters

"Even from the vantage point of the particularly bland bedroom community I grew up in decades ago — a period when southern California was far whiter than it is now — my family, who managed rental real estate, had regular interactions with Japanese shopkeepers, Mexican contractors, black insurance salesmen, Cambodian apartment managers, Korean roofers, and tenants of all stripes. These encounters were usually friendly, even when my dad drove up to Watts one day in 1966 to collect rent for my grandparents — before realizing this was Day One of what turned out to be the famous riots."


 17 · MD on March 6, 2006 10:13 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

So, that song didn't bother any of the women who post regularly here? I didn't see Hustle and Flow: how were the women depicted? Was there any sympathy for their plight? Why should I care about some guy, a grown man capable of making all kinds of choices, who is a pimp, hates it, and wants to get out of it. I'm sure there were other jobs he could do: they just wouldn't give him the high life he wanted. Am I wrong? Does the movie have any redeeming qualities?


 18 · KXB on March 6, 2006 10:15 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Oh, and note to Clooney - making a movie about McCarthyism 50 years after the fact is not bravery. I eagerly await his timely take on the Teapot Dome scandal.


 19 · Al_Mujahid_for_debauchery on March 6, 2006 10:26 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Oh, and note to Clooney - making a movie about McCarthyism 50 years after the fact is not bravery. I eagerly await his timely take on the Teapot Dome scandal.

In the current political climate, when the ability of the press to hold the government accountable is under attack, the movie was timely if not brave.
I guess real bravery is when minority self loathing right wingers write books defending the internment of other minorities 50 years after the fact.


 20 · Janeofalltrades on March 6, 2006 10:32 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
So, that song didn't bother any of the women who post regularly here? I didn't see Hustle and Flow: how were the women depicted? Was there any sympathy for their plight? Why should I care about some guy, a grown man capable of making all kinds of choices, who is a pimp, hates it, and wants to get out of it. I'm sure there were other jobs he could do: they just wouldn't give him the high life he wanted. Am I wrong? Does the movie have any redeeming qualities?

MD personally I don't listen to any music that has insulting lyrics towards women and disrespect in general. I find it grates more at me than other music and perhaps more as I get older. I didn't watch the movie because it isn't interesting nor relatable subject matter for me so I can't comment on it but I thought that acceptance speech was horrendous. What the hell was that? And like you I'm ruthless, I have no sympathy for those that make wrong choices. Whatever.


 21 · Al_Mujahid_for_debauchery on March 6, 2006 10:34 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I did have a small problem with the fact that every character redeemed themself somehow, except for the Asians. That's kind of uncool.

Asians (east asians, south asians and arabs/west asians) are the only group left in America who can be ridiculed for being asian with no consequences.


 22 · Neha on March 6, 2006 10:36 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

MD:
I thought Hustle & Flow was a good film, it didn't offend me because it wasn't personal. Not in the 'Crash' sense. H & F tells a story of a man's life, he just happens to be a pimp. It does nothing to either actively propagate or tear apart the lifestyle. A judgement of right or wrong, good or bad, is not delivered and you end up having to make up your own mind. I think this 'tell it like it is' style of story and dialogue makes the movie work.

The song only works because it is a part of the movie, it was actually performed by said pimp and a pregnant prostitute during a particularly uplifting scene. Hard to believe but I'd say give it a shot.


 23 · A N N A on March 6, 2006 11:04 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
i'm just glad the gay movie did not win too many awards ... especially best picture

why?


 24 · BrownFist on March 6, 2006 11:18 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Al Mujahid: great comments on this thread - both about "Malicious Malkin" and about Asians being ridiculed for being Asian.

Neha: Good point - I saw H & F and dug it, though I was very skeptical that prostitution was the starting point. But I felt like it was more real than a lot of the films out there that glorify sex work/pimping, because I don't think that it was overly romanticized. But it would be good to hear from other women, who've actually seen the movie.

Thendi: Go join the GOP/RSS - they love your kind. Trolls.


 25 · DesiDancer on March 6, 2006 11:19 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
i'm just glad the gay movie did not win too many awards ... especially best picture

in case they multiply?

/goes away shaking head.


 26 · Rupa on March 6, 2006 12:08 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

MD: Hustle and Flow is actually pretty good. (And 3-6 Mafia were TOTALLY HILARIOUS when they won the Oscar. Could they have been any drunker?) I think when you attach the word "pimp" to something it conjures up images of Snoop Dogg with some wicked curl and a long fur coat, but the reality of it as shown in the movie is very unglamorous and not fun at all for anyone involved (least of all the prostitutes, but no one was trying to say it was easy for them). The point of the movie wasn't about pimping though, it was about having a dream and following it. Terence Howard is amazing, too. He's a guitar-playing lover of John Mayer in real life. I saw this special on HBO where 3-6 Mafia had to teach him how to rap, it was hilarious.

Manish: Munich? Really? I usually find myself agreeing with your critiques (especially about Crash) but Steven Spielberg does not know how to handle sex. Did anyone else find that to be the case? It was a little awkward.


 27 · MD on March 6, 2006 12:23 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Fair enough Rupa and Neha, but why didn't he just get another job? Was that the only thing he could do? He was so deprived he had no other choices available to him? If he was so unhappy, why didn't he do something else? I know men who would rather go hungry than treat a woman that way, and they ain't all from the upper or middle class. I'll watch it (maybe, if I remember to add it to the list), but I am still unconvinced by the remarks. And if it was about following a dream, why pick a pimp?

Oh, I don't know why it bothered me so much - if I can watch Russell Crowe do his turn as an Australian skinhead, I suppose I can watch a pimp-as-protagonist. Why pick this guy to do a movie about is beyond me, but, whatever.


 28 · SMR on March 6, 2006 12:30 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Steven Spielberg does not know how to handle sex. Did anyone else find that to be the case?

Yup. Munich was a great film but what the hell was Spielberg thinking with that sex scene towards the end?! It was so amateurish and jarring. Ang Lee deserved the Oscar over Spielberg - Brokeback wasn't as self-indulgent a film as Munich


 29 · Rani on March 6, 2006 12:47 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

"I didn't watch the movie because it isn't interesting nor relatable subject matter for me so I can't comment on it but I thought that acceptance speech was horrendous. What the hell was that?"

i'm not trying to start a war here ... but i don't know how you can say a movie is/isn't interesting w/o watching it... and i don't understand all the hate on this movie b/c of its subject matter...are people really not watching this movie b/c they feel it degrades women? (i'm not trying to be sarcastic)...i just think that this really limits your experience at the movies....are you just as offended at movies which portray women as the token weak/stupid characters and avoid them as well (though this maybe harder to do)?

i really liked this movie...and i thought the performance/speech by three 6 mafia (along w/ the actress from the movie) was a highlight of an otherwise by the books ceremony...they actually seemed surprised and elated that they won...


 30 · Mousepad Marauder on March 6, 2006 12:50 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Ang Lee definitely deserved that award. A Chinese dude making a movie about gay cowboys in 1960s Wyoming. He was definitely waaaaaaay outside his comfort zone on that one.


 31 · KXB on March 6, 2006 12:53 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

The sex scene at the end of Munich owes more to Tony Kushner's heterophobia than to Spielberg.


 32 · GujuDude on March 6, 2006 12:56 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

MD: SF Gate reviewed Hustle and Flow, and I think they touch upon the main points of what makes the film good. It was screened at Sundance Film Festival and people absolutely loved it.


 33 · Taro Baap on March 6, 2006 01:03 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I didn't watch the Oscars.

The only thing I feared missing was Jon Stewart.
You can watch a long clip of his monologue here.

Up to his high standard of humour and political commentary:
http://www.onegoodmove.org/1gm/


 34 · Pattie Kaur on March 6, 2006 01:03 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Am I alone in thinking that M. Night is really good-looking? :)

Nope I think he's a hottie too...mostly cause of his demeanor and accomplishments. And I had the biggest crush on a guy once who is a dead ringer for him.

OMG.....most definately NOT alone. he's got a baby face, and sweet eyes. something about him screams gentleman. he's very cute. (note to monty, rabbi, waris..i've not givene up on you! i'm just thinking outside the dhari ;) )

and why is the foreign films always seem best...


 35 · SMR on March 6, 2006 01:05 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Speaking of heterophobia, Ross Douthat had a really interesting take on Brokeback Mountain (this is from when he was guest blogging at andrewsullivan):

The film is a study in the contrast between homosexuality and heterosexuality, and the former is - almost without exception - presented as preferable to the latter, as purer and more beautiful, and ultimately as more authentically masculine...But while the film invites the audience to like [the heroes' wives] and pity their plight, it also trades in the darkest stereotypes of domestic life - the squalling babies, the tiny apartments and the mounting bills, the domineering in-laws and the general claustrophobia that almost any man feels, at one point or another, in his married life, but that Brokeback Mountain portrays as being the whole of it. To a certain extent, the drama of the movie necessitates this kind of contrast, but it's significant, I think, that the film doesn't offer any model of successful heterosexual masculinity, or of successful heterosexual relationships in general.

 36 · Janeofalltrades on March 6, 2006 01:10 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
i'm not trying to start a war here ... but i don't know how you can say a movie is/isn't interesting w/o watching it... and i don't understand all the hate on this movie b/c of its subject matter...are people really not watching this movie b/c they feel it degrades women? (i'm not trying to be sarcastic)...i just think that this really limits your experience at the movies....are you just as offended at movies which portray women as the token weak/stupid characters and avoid them as well (though this maybe harder to do)?

No hate Rani. For me I watch films that look interesting to me and I feel have the ability to move me. I didn't see Brokeback Mountain either. Seriously. I feel like the non-iPod using crowd, people look at me like I have 12 heads. I didn't find either subject material something worth me wanting to see it also I'd read BBM earlier. I didn't not see it because of the women angle.

i really liked this movie...and i thought the performance/speech by three 6 mafia (along w/ the actress from the movie) was a highlight of an otherwise by the books ceremony...they actually seemed surprised and elated that they won...

I thought the speech was just hilarious. I didn't understand a word. They are allowed to be overjoyed and happy. I just disliked the acceptance. There have been more articulate actors in the past who sounded like total idiots when they won awards as well. (I hate to have to throw this disclaimer in just so I don't sound like a racist bitch...I really really do.)


 37 · rani on March 6, 2006 01:24 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

janeofalltrades:

sorry, maybe i misunderstood your previous comments...

but i'm just trying to say that though a movie may have misogynistic themes wouldn't categorize it as a movie that i avoid ...a movie is a movie...its hard to define what makes a good movie...but i wouldn't say its bad/do-not-see based on the personality/views of its characters...sorry for blabbering..

my 2 cents: brokeback was robbed for best picture...

manish, you were rooting for munich? come, on :)


 38 · Expose on March 6, 2006 01:28 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

PattieKaur - Is there any man you don't find attractive or cute?


 39 · KXB on March 6, 2006 01:29 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

“In the current political climate, when the ability of the press to hold the government accountable is under attack, the movie was timely if not brave."


Yeah – cause every time I turn on the news or read the newspaper, I keep reading how awesome Bush is. The praise that the media give him for his handling of Iraq, Katrina, the deficit – it’s a model of restraint. And that Fahrenheit 9/11 tanked at the box office.

As for Clooney, Good Night, and Good Luck seems to overlook the major fact that McCarthy’s downfall had more to do with his idiotic attempt to take on the Army, and causing Eisenhower pulling out the rug from under him. And Syriana give us a modernizing Muslim leader who is assassinated by the U.S. Has anyone shown this film to Hamid Karzai yet? Maybe he should trade in his American bodyguards for more trustyworhy ones from the ummah?


 40 · MD on March 6, 2006 01:32 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Rani, I'm not hating on anything. I said I would give the movie a chance. If Shakespeare can write Othello......except that feeling sympathy even with Othello bothers me. How dare you make me feel sympathy with that? And yet, it's art that makes us see the humanity in characters that are less than savory. And, I'm a huge fan of tell it like it is film-making. You know, I have a sneaking suspicion I'll like the movie. But I didn't know a thing about the movie, looked up the lyrics to the song, and, well, hated them. I suppose in the context of the movie they have meaning, but they seem so flat on the page, just like any other rap song that happens to denigrate women. And I'm not of the left, and I couldn't care less about political correctness, and the artist should be free to explore what he or she wants. But why, oh why, oh why, are so many female characters in movies prostitutes - from Closer to this film? My next door neighbor is African American, has health related disabilities and used to pick tobacco in the fields to feed her kids! She's a hero to me, she's gentle and loving and giving. She's very like my mother, who is another woman deserving of every love and respect. I have no idea what I'm trying to say. I am deeply ambivalent - I see the merit in the film as you discuss, and I also feel tremendous sadness. It's not hate. It's complete and utter ambivalence.


 41 · aishwarya on March 6, 2006 01:36 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

forget m. night shyamalan...no one noticed my l'oreal ad?


 42 · Hari Prasad on March 6, 2006 01:39 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

A history of Violence should have been nominated for the best movie


 43 · Sonia on March 6, 2006 01:48 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

aishwarya, even I'm not jumping out of my seat anymore when I see your loreal ad .. and hey, i'm obsessed with you =)


 44 · Jai on March 6, 2006 01:58 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

You know, Sholay could be interpreted as a little "Brokeback Hillstation"-ish.....Two guys closer to each other than to anyone else, their women in the film relegated to background roles, lots of denim shirts and cowboy-like action, some cuddling and crying at the end (yes I know one of 'em was dying at the time, dammit).....

Okay I'm just kidding, don't start accusing me of Bollywood blasphemy and placing bounties for 51 crore rupees on my head.

However, speaking of Bolly Brokeback action, I remember another 70s (early 80s ?) film starring Amitabh, this one with Shashi Kapoor. I can't remember the name of the movie, but it had a sniggering shower scene with these two where they're discussing how they've been taking baths together since they were kids, and it even included some "don't drop the soap" jokes. It was only when I saw the film again a couple of years ago (like most people I'd originally seen it as a kid) that the dubious gay overtones of the scene became clear to me. Ah, the innocent of childhood.....or, more probably, a typically-sheltered desi upbringing ;)


 45 · Janeofalltrades on March 6, 2006 01:59 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
forget m. night shyamalan...no one noticed my l'oreal ad?

Yeah sorry Ash I'm so not into the ad anymore either though every day when I walk into the building your poster greets me with those eyes and I secretly smile thinking "Props to brown people". But then again you also don't really look brown. And there is no way those lashes on you in the ad are real. Also that two step is the worst two step mascara ever. You can't get beyond the clumping first step. But you do look great :-)


 46 · MoorNam on March 6, 2006 01:59 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I was thinking of moving to Canada if Crash didn't win the vote...

M. Nam


 47 · Neha on March 6, 2006 02:03 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

MD,

Fair enough Rupa and Neha, but why didn't he just get another job? Was that the only thing he could do? He was so deprived he had no other choices available to him? If he was so unhappy, why didn't he do something else?

Well, that's really the point of the whole movie, he does want to do something else, the entire plot revolves around his existing household, which consists of 3 prostitutes and an unborn child, and his desire to do something better for himself and for the others. This flick is hardly a clear representation of reality, pimps don't give a shit about who they're tricking in the real world. That said, it is a hopeful representation of a group of people making an effort to do better for themselves. Now go rent it before I ruin the entire plot :-)


 48 · DesiDancer on March 6, 2006 02:06 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
forget m. night shyamalan...no one noticed my l'oreal ad?

sorry #47, I started scowling at your ad after I shelled out $12 (plus 9% in NYC sales taxes) to find that the so-called Revolutionary brush in the second step of your mascara is about as precise and graceful an applicator as a paint-roller. You scammed me, ho.

Where's ANNA? I need a good rec on a 2-step :)


 49 · Kom on March 6, 2006 02:07 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

..but it had a sniggering shower scene with these two where they're discussing how they've been taking baths together since they were kids, and it even included some "don't drop the soap" jokes.

Silsila?


 50 · DesiDancer on March 6, 2006 02:09 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

#47 being a reference to Ash's rank, not to Neha's comment :)


 51 · Jai on March 6, 2006 02:21 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Kom,

Silsila?

Could be. Quite a subversive thing to do in that time, I guess, especially considering Silsila showed Amitabh in full-scale Rekha-seducing, poetry-reciting stud mode.

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I can't believe DesiDancer just called T2ndBMWITW a "ho". What a saucy wench.



 52 · Janeofalltrades on March 6, 2006 02:25 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
sorry #47, I started scowling at your ad after I shelled out $12 (plus 9% in NYC sales taxes) to find that the so-called Revolutionary brush in the second step of your mascara is about as precise and graceful an applicator as a paint-roller. You scammed me, ho.

Where's ANNA? I need a good rec on a 2-step :)

I'll stand in for ANNA :-) try the Maybelline XXL (not Intense) but honestly you don't need a two step. The key is in a good mascara that lets you build rather than two steps. If you are just a tad slow in between steps the first step will dry on you and the second one will clump. Try Lancome's L'Extreme. It's fantastic.


 53 · dogday on March 6, 2006 02:33 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

the tone of the entire production was unbelievably sedate and establishment for a profession which is a hothouse of nonconformists. Someone could do well with an alternative, rockin’ Oscars.

Regarding the tone... From one perspective, it seemed to be a byproduct of the industry's sense of self-importance ("we make serious films in serious times") and from another angle, it just seemed to lack energy and innovation. But then, in being a somewhat reserved affair, it also seemed to project a sense of dignity, a conspicuous lack of flamboyance that seemed intent on not making the Oscars a Las Vegas dinner show aimed at pleasing a perpetually over-stimulated viewing audience...

I agree that entertaining noncomformity is and always will be a hallmark of good moviemaking but I don't believe it has to be the only means by which the industry defines itself. I also agree that yesterday's affair was at times so quiet and even-handed that it seemed to lack any truly defining moment. But then again, its an awards show intended to recognize all the defining moments and spectacular noncomformities that have been hitting the screen throughout the year...

Billy Crystal was once a good standard for the awards, he injected energy and vitality into the moment and made people smile and look forward to the "show." However, in making the Oscars a show about all the shows we've been watching & talking about the entire year and splicing the handing out of awards between songs, impressions and stand-up comedy, he more-or-less made the films irrelevant and ultimately left the impression that Hollywood doesn't take itself or its audience seriously...

I think yesterday and perhaps this entire year was about taking things seriously, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It may have been a little contrived and taken the entertainment out of the awards, but I liked the change in tone. It wasn't just one big raucous party, it was an awards-ceremony that aimed just a little higher than what people were expecting. It may not have succeeded for everyone, but at least wasn't like any other year and in the end, I guess that jives with the whole philosophy of nonconformity.


 54 · TheBarmaid on March 6, 2006 03:09 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Watching Crash was the equivalent of eating glass.


 55 · prope//er on March 6, 2006 03:16 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

The whole Oscar deal is such a drag not to mention, politicized. It probably is the biggest dog-and-pony show Hollywood studios perform year after year. Good advertising indeed, especially the, "Buy tickets and share the experience with a bunch of strangers, don't buy DVDs". I appreciate the sentiment but you really don't want to spend $20 + popcorn+soda on "Freddy Got Fingered". Probably some movies were meant to be seen on DVD only, that too if one is so [fill_in_the_blank] challenged enough to watch a movie such as FGF.

It is really interesting that not a single comment was heard either on the radio or the boards about the Tsotsi director(?) saying "our movies depict the human emotion as your films do" or something like that. The guy looked pissed on stage, I wonder what his motivations were.

How can you explain

[*} Clooney getting the award and not Dillon, Giamatti or any of the other nominees? Clooney got it because the folks had to give him something.

[*] Based on what I had heard on the radio today, it appears they left out an actor by the name of Don Knotts, according to IMDb, he died in Feb 06. Did Pricewaterhousecoopers (thats a freakin long name for a management boutique) freeze the Oscar montage by the time Don Knotts died? probably they did.

[*] Robert Altman was thrown a bone in the form of a lifetime achievement award. The academy should be glad he didn't piss them off. It appears that there is great rivalry between the likes of Clooney, Altman and the Academy of Motion Pictures and Sciences. By the way, I also head that Tommy Lee Jones is also in that group. I don't blame these guys, the Oscars are more like. Oh you didn't get an award last year and the year before that, I guess we will award you this year. Competition be damned.

Finally, you have no idea how deep the hatred is for Shyamalan on WGN 720AM. This radio station hosts a movies and pop-culture oriented show on the weekend which sounds OK to me until the topic of Shyamalan comes along. I am not sure if it is collective prejudice but the net result is that people simply hate the guy. Probably because of conditioning, I am beginning to doubt the guy, especially after the Village reviews. Nick DiGilio, the commentator, literally goes on the radio and says "I hate this Shamalan- ding-dong guy". The word pretentious, useless and least qualified director follow immediately. Do you seriously think this guy is overrated?


 56 · siddhu on March 6, 2006 03:25 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Hustle and Flow was a silly movie. This review does a good job of revealing its ridiculous aspects.

http://fourfour.typepad.com/fourfour/2006/01/cant_knock_hust.html


 57 · Kom on March 6, 2006 03:42 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I was surprised by the Don Knotts omission, but read somewhere else that they only cover the calendar year Jan-Dec. when doing these remembrance things. So I guess he will be included next year. Seems a bit odd.

As for Altman, Clooney and their rivalry with the Academy, then why do they show up to accept these awards if they find them meaningless? Paul Newman doesn't show up anymore, Brando gave up on them. So has Reford, I think. And I agree about them giving awards after they are long past due. In my opinion, Tommy Lee Jones was the undeserving recipient of one for The Fugitive, which should have gone to Ralph Fiennes for Schindler's List.


 58 · prope//er on March 6, 2006 03:58 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
I was surprised by the Don Knotts omission, but read somewhere else that they only cover the calendar year Jan-Dec. when doing these remembrance things. So I guess he will be included next year. Seems a bit odd.
--> If that were the case, how do you explain the inclusion of Chris Penn? He died in January.
As for Altman, Clooney and their rivalry with the Academy, then why do they show up to accept these awards if they find them meaningless?

--> They probably do so for the sake of propriety. Hollywood is liberal as it is. Consider the style of Clooney and Altman as rebellious at best. I mean its a freakin clique at the end of the day, if there is a fundraiser tomorrow, Clooney ought to be able to walk-up to these people and ask for funds yeah? I will not be surprised if Clooney starts campaigning for Hillary tomorrow.

By the way, was Will Smith being tongue in cheek when he said, South African American? Wouldn't Charlize Theron be African American? I already have a SNL skit on my mind revolving around Charlize and the whole South African American angle.


 59 · Manish Vij on March 6, 2006 04:56 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
I feel you judged Crash a bitt too harshly just because it beat a movie the you wanted to win.

Incorrect. I copy/pasted those sentiments from a mini-review I wrote before Munich was released.

If you didnt get the direction of it all then I guess you are out of the target market for that movie.

The target market being those who follow daytime soaps? I liked Syriana. It's not about labyrinth, it's about making a coherent, novel point. Crash had none, unless you count 'Everyone's a little bit racist,' which Avenue Q no doubt did better.


 60 · DesiDancer on March 6, 2006 04:59 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
It's not about labyrinth, it's about making a coherent, novel point. Crash had none.

Vij, you need to watch more Bollywood and exercise the muscles that allow you to suspend all sense of feasibility or reality ;)


 61 · Ami on March 6, 2006 06:35 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

According to Angryasianman.com, Ang Lee was the first Asian to win best director.
I personally felt the Academy's decision for Crash as Best Picture was a cop out--it could have made a greater statement about awarding cinema that tackles necessary contemporary issues. Granted, Crash did try to address "every day racism", but themes and characters in Crash felt too forcefed and lost its relevance for me. My pick was Brokeback Mountain going in, but I thought Munich would also have been well deserving. These two movies portrayed a moral complexity and a restraint that built upon layers in the themes of the movie--Brokeback about a masked sexual orientation, Munich about the ethical angst of violence.
I guess there's always next year...


 62 · GujuDude on March 6, 2006 07:25 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
it could have made a greater statement about awarding cinema that tackles necessary contemporary issues.

Why do the awards have to make 'a statement'? I saw Crash and thought it was OK, not the best picture of the year. However, I don't believe in handing out awards to make a statement. They should be given for how well the art appeals to you. That art may have a message wrapped in it, or may not, which could have a factor in how much you like it. Ultimately, a compelling movie is more than some social statement, and far too many films use an issue as a crutch. I thought Crash did exactly that. It was lazy. Plenty of good films come around that are simply good movies. No forced statement, no 'bigger issue'.


 63 · dhaavak on March 6, 2006 07:56 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Watching Crash was the equivalent of eating glass.
yea - one needs to have masochistic tendencies to think that's entertainment - around the scene that the police guy was molesting the woman i felt sick to the stomach and the person i was with started crying - we would have got up to go but we were right in the middle and it felt like we'd be making a scene - just cringed through the rest of the movie .

 64 · metric ang on March 6, 2006 08:02 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
ne needs to have masochistic tendencies to think that's entertainment

Well, I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable scenes that made it a bad movie. I think we need those uncomfortable scenes once in while, sans the shock just for shock's sake aspect.

Like someone else said, it didn't tie anything together, there was no point, and it addressed the race issue really simplistically. I can't believe that anyone would think this a complex, multidimensional film!


 65 · dhaavak on March 6, 2006 08:44 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Well, I wouldn't say it was uncomfortable scenes that made it a bad movie. I think we need those uncomfortable scenes once in while, sans the shock just for shock's sake aspect.
yea... shock for shock's state summarizes the whole movie - a sequence of painful events pulled together to rationalize every wicked, depraved act out there.
ok.. but just to share what happens when someone takes the same idea of people crisscrossing paths in a lifetime and creates something wonderful... i finished albom's "five persons ..." on a plane ride the other day... it's an antidote to all the crashes in the world and will make you fall in love again with friends and family.

 66 · Pattie Kaur on March 6, 2006 09:33 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Pattie Kaur - Is there any man you don't find attractive or cute?

yes.....many...but i prefer to stick the positives. woever, we'll just say i'm not too fond of nsync or backstreet boys, and rappers.


 67 · dhaavak on March 6, 2006 09:58 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
it's an antidote to all the crashes in the world and will make you fall in love again with friends and family.
ok. i sounded like a ball of asiago there, a BIG ball. beam me up oprah.

 68 · sahej on March 6, 2006 10:22 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

even though not having seen Hustle and Flow, my reaction to it was multi-facted...one thing i thought was that it'd be nice when african american movies portraying more generally positive life styles get nominations as well. there's so much out there about african american culture as with all cultures to portray, we could be getting realyl good movies. seeing a more broad picture of african american culture has been quite eye opening over the years as to how much there is that gets missed by the mainstream portrayals. its like the portrayal you see in movies and rap videos is like all you see about african americans but there's so much that just gets completely missed. those who are not african american miss out because of it as well as those who are african american


 69 · Fei on March 6, 2006 10:35 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

M. Night Shyamalan's movies are boring as hell.....just because the "Surprise!?" thing worked once, it doesn't mean that it will work over and over again. I feel that he pretty much screwed himself up by doing the same thing over and over again....and over again.


 70 · turbanhead on March 7, 2006 01:14 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

A friend best summed it when he said "Somewhere,PT Anderson is crying himself to sleep knowing that a Magnolia ripoff walked away with the oscar."


 71 · MJ on March 7, 2006 01:32 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
I think when you attach the word "pimp" to something it conjures up images of Snoop Dogg with some wicked curl and a long fur coat, but the reality of it as shown in the movie is very unglamorous and not fun at all for anyone involved.

that was one of the reasons that quentin tarantino listed 'hustle and flow' as 1 of his top 5 movies of the year.


 72 · BOON on March 7, 2006 02:40 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

"Oh, and note to Clooney - making a movie about McCarthyism 50 years after the fact is not bravery. I eagerly await his timely take on the Teapot Dome scandal."

"In the current political climate, when the ability of the press to hold the government accountable is under attack, the movie was timely if not brave."

Exactly.


 73 · sy on March 7, 2006 10:09 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
A friend best summed it when he said "Somewhere,PT Anderson is crying himself to sleep knowing that a Magnolia ripoff walked away with the oscar."

Aw, poor guy. Maybe he shouldn't have ripped off Altman's "Short Cuts".


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