August 22, 2006
You call this a party?Events
May I vent? On Sunday I went to the India Day celebration in New York. It was my first one since moving here, after years in a smaller city where there wasn’t much commemoration. Riding the subway downtown I was quite excited. I was also upset that I didn’t have a camera. I wanted to document the event for the mutineers to share in the party. I was annoyed that I’d have to find someone else’s blog or Flickr page to show you images of the day.
So I get down to 28th Street and start walking south on Madison Avenue. The street is empty. That’s OK, I can see the party a couple of blocks ahead. It looks small… but compact, right? Besides, it must spill out onto the side streets that I can’t see from here.
Aha! Here we go. Booths, stands, displays. I’m ready to get my culture on. I’m hoping for musicians, arts organizations, political groups of all stripes, regional and ethnic groups, maybe some cool vendors…
And what do I get?
Shaadi.com
BharatMatrimony
State Bank of India
Direct TV
Satellite TV channel #1
Satellite TV channel #2
Insurance agency
Another bank
… and that’s about it.
I mean, this was pathetic. Pathetic! India Day, commemoration of 59 years of Independence and all that, aunties walking around in tricolor saris, kids with face paint, and almost every single organized presence is hawking middle-class consumer services.
The exception was a bone marrow drive, but even that was being promoted by brothers from a desi fraternity. I’m not hating, especially not on bone marrow drives, but the frat-boy flavor certainly didn’t bring any cultural diversity to the event.
Yeah, there was a stage with performances. Just one stage, and the little I saw was, eh… just OK.
And yeah, I missed the parade. I’d been told to watch for the floats. Well, here’s a brother who took pictures: Corporate flatbeds rolling by empty sidewalks. A few Republican politicians.
The most flavor at the entire event was the Hare Krishnas.
Is it always this way?
siddhartha on August 22, 2006 11:21 AM in Events · T·r·a·c·k·b·a·c·k address · Direct link · Email post
¤ DesiPundit said: Desi Marketers Day Out
The Pakistan day parade is waaaay better ;)
...and it's being held this coming Sunday at the same site, which makes ideal research conditions for comparison. I'm thinking of checking it out, actually. Any readers going, drop me a line.
Is it always this way?
This year the parade seemed a little shorter to me, and much less diverse. In years past, I've seen marchers from SALGA NYC, Nonresident Indians for a Secular and Harmonious India, and other such groups.
The Pakistan day parade is waaaay better ;)
I've heard. If I was in town this weekend, I would have checked it out.
The only reason to ever go to the India Day Parade is for the YSS protests, which are always fun.
Last year, DesiDancer was part of the stage performance. And A.R. Rahman was there (I guess roughly in conjunction with "Bombay Dreams"?)
But yeah, the rest of it was pretty shabby.
some v prety b@bes in the crowd....althugh generally a dissapointing event.
Yes, the Pakistan Day Parade is always better. I usually get calls from friends saying "what's up with all the Indian people on 5th Avenue?" during that parade.
But also, parades aside, street fairs/celebrations in NYC are notoriously terrible. Even the famous San Gennaro festival in "Little Italy" has devolved into stalls selling fried Oreo cookies and the like.
True. Last year Desi Dancer was the only good thing about it, and I missed seeing her. Go figure.
But also, parades aside, street fairs/celebrations in NYC are notoriously terrible.
tamasha, i hear you, sistren, but you should come uptown. i went to the harlem celebrations on 135 both saturday and sunday and it was fantastic.
Ha, i went, it was a sad state of affairs. Based on the corporate sponsors, you think Indian people are interested only in getting hitched, than watching TV, nay, Satellite TV (nothing but the best for us brown people) and saving money... hum... wait.. ;-)
but you should come uptownTrue. I should change my "NYC" to Manhattan-below-96th-Street.
Now if you want to see a Parade...
BrooklynBrown (#4):
The only reason to ever go to the India Day Parade is for the YSS protests, which are always fun.
teehee, my arm is in that picture
but even that was being promoted by brothers from a desi fraternity.
there is a fraternity for brown people?
Now if you want to see a Parade...
Aaahhh, tamasha, you beat me to it. I completely agree; the West India Day parade is one of the coolest in the city.
there is a fraternity for brown people?
yes. they are annoying
there is a fraternity for brown people?
Whaddaya think this blog is ? ;)
Okay, maybe that's partly because some of us are disruptive elements who are here to badmaashify things up a little.....
yes. they are annoying
I share this opinion, but it's no limited to just the brown ones. Why single anyone out?
Is it always this way?
yes
bollywood actress bipisha basu was the grand marshall of the parade. she arrived like 2 hours late ans missed the parade. she came at the end and went up to the stage and said that the men in the car harassed her. while giving this speech in front of like 10000 people the men in the car (the organizers of the parade)tried to shut her up.
Many think that this is just a publicity stunt because she did not contact the police after this happened or while it happened.
May I vent? On Sunday I went to the India Day celebration in New York. It was my first one since moving here, after years in a smaller city where there wasnt much commemoration.oh it doesnt have to be that way.
we had a 'festival of southasia' in toronto this past weekend. as the name suggests - it was an indo-pak thing.
There's a little bit of coverage here.
Samosas, pakoras, savoury chicken tikka and vegetarian delights were just the beginning. Then came dessert: faluda, mango lassi, kulfi (Indian ice cream) on a stick and the palate cleansing paan a mix of raw spices wrapped up in an edible leaf, sometimes topped with fresh coconut.
"We wanted to show the diversity even within ourselves," said Subbu Chintaluri, one of the event co-ordinators. "There are Pakistani, Tamil, Punjabi, Hindi and Gujarati foods and performances." One booth proudly offered what they call Indian wines. "They are wines made to compliment Indian food," said Sandra Espinosa of Angoori Wines. "They work with the spices as opposed to covering them up."
I attended the saturday session and pigged out on dhokla, chaat and cholley... before spending the rest of the evening watching a bollytunes perfomance before moving to lahor tika house to catch a spot of qawwali. quite a bit of fun yaar. Wish you were there. the highlight was a very aggressive dandia dance ... to some rather earthy song that this kid belted out with a lot of gusto. i was quite pleased.
the next day you had more traditional dance recitals - bharatnatyam, odissi. etc.
then there were the non-choreographed highlights that add a lot of flavor to the event - like standing behind a couple of pakistani hotbloods in front of the stage waiting for shit to happen - i was grinnign in anticipation of a scrap :-) but didnt happen - or behind this iranian girl with plucked eyebrows who seemed to be very much a fan of bolly tunes, she seemed to be lipsynching to whatever the singer was singing - and this bangla woman with red teeth, the girth and bearing of a butcher, handing out verbal smackdowns to anyone and all... and they all took it in stride even as they waited for her chaat... etc etc.
you had to be there.
bollywood actress bipisha basu was the grand marshall of the parade.
This was at the parade in Edison, NJ on the 13th, not the parade in NYC on the 20th. More on that incident.
India Day in Portland, Oregon was also a dissappointing experience. Usually, my friends and I stick around for the fashion show-- we just left early and went down the street to Rockbottom's. How sad and embarrassing.
Now this
Samosas, pakoras, savoury chicken tikka and vegetarian delights were just the beginning. Then came dessert: faluda, mango lassi, kulfi (Indian ice cream) on a stick and the palate cleansing paan a mix of raw spices wrapped up in an edible leaf, sometimes topped with fresh coconut.
is what we need.
I share this opinion, but it's no limited to just the brown ones. Why single anyone out?
They are the only frat boys I have ever really interacted with. Not trying to single them out or anything.
On another note, did anyone see the "World Cahmpions of Theen Pathi" float? It was fully of mostly wh!te h00chies shaking it. a bit odd.
Shucks, Ennis & Amardeep :) I heard the BAx company didn't perform this year, which is a bummer because they really draw a crowd well. The Sikh parade down 7th Ave in the mid-spring is another good one.
A sucky parade is better than no parade, which is what we got here... :( The big parade here was me marching solo with my tri-color, scaring the neighbors and spitting paan into their flowerbeds...
Shucks, Ennis & Amardeep :)
The Secret Sardar and Professor Pyaar always know how to smooth-talk the laydeez.....
Did you check out the after parties. I couldnt go this year but those are always fun with some artist or the other.
Now if you want to see a Parade... Aaahhh, tamasha, you beat me to it. I completely agree; the West India Day parade is one of the coolest in the city.
couldnt agree more.
Our Sikh parades are good too which go from Broadway to 23rd madison for Baisakhi. Atleast you get free food! people are seen filling up their bags with all the goodies
Did anyone see the "World Cahmpions of Teen Pathi" float?
Yes, and my friends and I agreed that they couldn't have had desi girls in shorts and tank tops on the float because it would have offended a lot of people's sensibilities.
we had a 'festival of southasia' in toronto this past weekend. as the name suggests - it was an indo-pak thing.
oh hairy d--i was at the festival in TO this saturday as well.. :) the highlight was finding MANGOOSTEENS :)
A sucky parade is better than no parade, which is what we got here... :(
and a sucky parade is certainly better than the multiple parade schism-spectactles that used to prevail just about every year....
DD, i must say -- a triumphant return to NYC would have been the perfect platform to kick off your campaign.... still time for you to crash the pakistan day parade -- just think of all the joementum you'd gain by declaring yourself an "independent Indian," not beholden to any particular national origin.... wait, on second thought, maybe that's not the right campaign slogan for you.
Yes, and my friends and I agreed that they couldn't have had desi girls in shorts and tank tops on the float because it would have offended a lot of people's sensibilities.
because wh!te w0men are supposed to be $ex 0bjects with no personalities. they do that kind of thing. good indian girls only study classical music, learn to cook dosas and do their homework.
oh hairy d--i was at the festival in TO this saturday as well.. :) the highlight was finding MANGOOSTEENS :)welcome to Truntoo, garbanzo!!!
yer quite the traveller, eh? a rolling bean gathers no humoss.
The most flavor at the entire event was the Hare Krishnas.
Hehe.
I'm not a big fan of parades myself, period. (Except for Chariots! But that almost doens't count b/c you're *in* in the parade. So I'm not a big fan of watching parades.) I haven't been to an Indian Independance day celebration in years, but the ones I danced at in Fremont were great. Lots and lots of kids dancing and singing and playing tabla and other instruments, which to me is a really great expression of community. Representation from community groups like Narika. The vendors then were mainly local and selling fun stuff and plenty of books, so they were great too. No idea what it's like now.
While there I also ran down the block to meet The Bean so as we could partake in the "parade" that is Chinatown on a Saturday afternoon and let me tell you, she loves those mangosteens! :-)oh hairy d--i was at the festival in TO this saturday as well.. :) the highlight was finding MANGOOSTEENS :)welcome to Truntoo, garbanzo!!!
ahhh yes.. I GOT TO MEET MISS NEHA :)...and wish her a happy bday in persona ;)...good to meet you albeit a short while.. next time though.. LONGER time... promise...and maybe we can um.. protest as well...
yer quite the traveller, eh? a rolling bean gathers no humoss.
chuckle.. oh hairy d... that was brilliant ;)
trying to visit the universe, one bean nation at a time
next time will look you up...
While there I also ran down the block to meet The Bean so as we could partake in the "parade" that is Chinatown on a Saturday afternoon and let me tell you, she loves those mangosteens! :-)
aaieee! any woman who would trawl Spadina avenue on a saturday and brave the stink of a chinatown grocery store for a quaint fruit is a woman whose passion has overflown the levee.
or just maybe... the lingus and the bean took a trip to the hot box cafe before hitting chinatown... no? ;-)
I'm wondering if the lackluster nature of today's India (Independence) Day parades are a symptom of:
(1) Suburbanization of browns (including their businesses) - as the Bipasha Basu incident shows, Edison NJ can muster at least as much of a crowd and festival as Manhattan, if not more so. The Bay Area's parade was in Fremont, away from San Francisco, Oakland, and San Jose. What will be next? A parade in Schaumburg, IL?
(2) Splintering of browns and their organizations/events - Now that we have Baisakhi Day and Navratri events attracting thousands of their own attendees and more fervent celebrations, it drains some of the meaning of what would otherwise be "big" Indian events (such as Independence Day). Also, without such sense of purpose or meaning, the pan-Indian organizations seem to be rife with splintering, petty personal/political disputes, and sycophancy. With limited time and resources, given a critical mass of a large, diverse desi community, more people are going to invest in their particular faith or regional/ethnic/lingustic group.
I should point out that these phenomenon seem to be more in place in the few select, large cities with large desi populations (NY, Chicago, Bay Area, etc.). I see a lot more unity in Indian communities in areas like Charlottesville, Virginia and Columbia, South Carolina, because the small size of the communities foster (if not force) more cooperation. You can't have two or three Gujarati associations or two or three South Indian temples in these places. You pretty much have to cooperate with one or two organizations and one, maybe two temples. Now that I live in such an area, the Indian community here reminds me more of the early closeness of the one I remember growing up in Chicago in the late 70s/early 80s, when folks would still have to rent public park halls in the city proper, rather than having a dozen or so temples scattered across northeast Illinois.
Living in a small midwestern town, the only celebrations we had growing up were on Diwali and one other time a year, and they were usually the traditional "cultural" shows with dinner and the kids performing. And even those events and the organization that put them on has since dissipated as the original First-gen Indian community has aged and moved on. Is it like this in most American cities?
In the DC suburbs, we have a Diwali "mela" that is mostly a bunch of stalls selling their wares, some more stalls for food, and some cultural programs performed by kids or whatever, which is ignored by many most of the time. I don't feel a sense of desiness in the crowd. It's like going to the mall really, a desi mall with desi people and desi stuff, and you can bargain. I've had train rides in Bombay that were more exciting than the Diwali mela. There is a huge influx of First-gen desis in the DC area (just like the huge influx of everyone else, I guess), and I get the feeling that desis go to the mela because they feel obligated to. We have to do something for Diwali, so we go. I wish there were more options. Maybe some fireworks, or maybe have a rangoli contest or something. Frigging shopping for clothes is boring.
After 20 years in NYC I no longer go to that parade. I think 10 years ago it was filled with people who wanted to be there because they wanted to show their desi pride. It wasn't ghetto floats with half naked chicks dancing to Chaiyya Chaiyya. It used to be traditional dancers, colorful floats.
Then at some point in the 90s, the last time I went to the parade a kid shot another kid (some Pakistani / Indian thing) and it pissed me off. Sheer stupidity. I've watched a bunch of Pakistani kids run thru the parade waving the Pakistani flag. And people just gawk and put up with that bullshit. It's totally thuggish. You don't hear of Indian kids doing this during the Pakistani parade. Why? Because they'd probably get the shit kicked out of them.
This is one big reason I don't go any longer. Neither do those old timer desis that moved away from the metropolis to the deep crevices of Jersey and Long Island to get away from exactly this kind of behavior. People just don't bother anymore. There are too many other festivals during the year to cater to everyone. This just lost its importance.
Neither do those old timer desis that moved away from the metropolis to the deep crevices of Jersey and Long Island to get away from exactly this kind of behavior.
When I was growing up, this kind of behavior came from Jersey and Lawnguyland. That's where there were desi gangs, not in the cities.
Perhaps the fabric has changed. Even if you look at the neighborhood changes in Nassau county where in major towns like Floral Park, Bellerose & New Hyde Park nearly every 4th house bought is bought by a desi, the desi presence there is unmistakable. These are folks that are no longer going to Jackson Heights and those "gangs" of kids they had have grown up. The new breed of "gangs" and poorly behaved kids seem to be more transitional and from the city than from Lon guyland and Dirty Jerse!
As someone who grew up going to the India Day Parade, starting from the very first one when I was a tyke, I can definitely say that it has changed, and Janeofalltrades is right, it isn't as important anymore. I marched in the Parade in the late 1980s and early 1990s. It used to be one of the few times that Indian people could really stick out in NY except for Jackson Heights. That's not the case any longer, and Indians have become more accepted as a group. And yes, that entire Indian kid getting shot by that Pakistani kid in the 1990s also made it lose a lot of its luster. As for the Pakistanis being anti-Indian at the parade, I have to say that IMO that is true. I've seen numerous cars on the LIE on the day of the India Day Parade with Pakistani flags, and usually these cars are filled with young guys. Would Puerto Ricans dare impinge on the Dominicans day of celebration, or vice versa? Do Indians do this crap to Pakistanis? It is uncalled for and a shame.
Just to put things in perspective, Independence day in India isn't a big deal either. You get the day off, and you watch the parade on TV, and that's it. You just enjoy the day off. It wasn't a big deal for my parents too. It all seemed like too much flag-waving to me. "Mera Bharat Mahaan", kiss my ass. Perhaps, it was a bigger deal for my grandparents, because they had actually gone through it.
Maybe, the situation here in the US is a reflection of the situation in India. Older First-Generationers might have more pride, but as we have more and more new desi immigrants coming in the 90's, nationalistic pride has been dying down. Not saying that second generationers don't have pride in India, but celeberating nationalism seems rather pointless for immigrants, doesn't it?
aaieee! any woman who would trawl Spadina avenue on a saturday and brave the stink of a chinatown grocery store for a quaint fruit is a woman whose passion has overflown the levee.or just maybe... the lingus and the bean took a trip to the hot box cafe before hitting chinatown... no? ;-)
who needs the hot box when you have mangoosteens!!!! :) :) :)
--Not saying that second generationers don't have pride in India, but celeberating nationalism seems rather pointless for immigrants, doesn't it?
I dont think that's true. If someone calls themselves "Indian-American", then whats the point in not celebrating. Whether anyone likes it or not, thats the way everyone is labeled as. You might as well have some fun enjoying nationalism for a couple of hours. It may not have been enjoyable this time, but you should try to enjoy the two hours of nationalism maybe by bringing in some partying mutineers.
--Not saying that second generationers don't have pride in India, but celeberating nationalism seems rather pointless for immigrants, doesn't it?
I dont think that's true. If someone calls themselves "Indian-American", then whats the point in not celebrating. Whether anyone likes it or not, thats the way everyone is labeled as. You might as well have some fun enjoying nationalism for a couple of hours. It may not have been enjoyable this time, but you should try to enjoy the two hours of nationalism maybe by bringing in some partying mutineers.
Arre baba!! How do I explain this? Partying with your Desi friends is not nationalism. Nationalism is taking pride in your country, the progress she has made, and beleiving that your country is the best country on earth. The slogan "Mera Bharat Mahaan" represents nationalism quite succintly. "Mera yaar mast mast" is not nationalism. Cultural pride is also not nationalism. For a person to be nationalistic, they should have a sincere belief that their country is The Best Country On Earth(tm) and should be considered The Center Of The World, Nay, Universe (tm) . I don't see many Indians sharing that belief.
Also, mainly, there are so many things you can celeberate, that Independence day, generally, gets pushed down. I mean, I have so many things that I can do. If you make me choose between going to an Independence day parade and taking a nap, I would take a nap. Other celeberations have sweets involved. I'm not getting up to wave a flag. Get me some jalebi and I will talk.
21 · daycruz on August 22, 2006 12:45 PM · Direct link India Day in Portland, Oregon was also a dissappointing experience. Usually, my friends and I stick around for the fashion show-- we just left early and went down the street to Rockbottom's. How sad and embarrassing.
I'd thought of going to that; now I'm glad I didn't. Are there any pictures from the PDX event online?
The reason is obvious. Post 9/11 people don't show up to these parades because they're afraid the INS might be waiting there to deport them.
Hey Chick Pea!
GO FIGHTING MANGOSTEENS!
:-D
we should totally have a mangosteen float at one of these. . .
Bronx HS of Science's Indian Cultural Society did a float in one of these when I was a senior there. That year the small indian tv stations were there, there were small stores w/ floats but there were also thugs (and mind u not pakistani)who tried rushing up onto our float and others. It was annoying but we enjoyed ourselves anyways. I tried it one more year after that and honestly - I just didn't care - same old same old grew outof it I guess. Went and got Bhel Puri at Sukhadia's and never went back.
still in nyc but never go...does that make me a bad indian?
some of the comments here remind me of things my parents say -- they left india in the 60s and are still stuck in the india of the 60s. some of you may wish for an india day without half-naked chicks and annoying vendors, but it makes me wonder how many of you have been to india lately. i just returned three days ago, and let me tell you, you'd be hard pressed to find a tv station not broadcasting half-naked chicks or to walk down the street without being inundated by greedy advertisements (print, person, etc.) perhaps the current india day celebrations are in fact more representative of current indian culture than some would like to admit. i don't appreciate it myself, but i don't necessarily feel comfortable criticizing contemporary indian culture, seeing as how i've had no part in shaping it. my young nieces and nephews have zero interest in seeing bharatnatyam or learning sanksrit or carnatic music. "too bad," i think to myself. but in truth, it's no different from the way most societies have evolved. not saying it's the right way to go, but let's not kid ourselves about what images best represent india currently.
milli:
It's one thing to be stuck in a certain time period and believe firmly that nothing ever changes. This whole idea of a static, stagnant, unchanging India is shared by both many members of the diaspora and also by many non-Indians who go to India looking for some ancient spiritual quest and end up buying a tie-dye Kali t-shirt at some kitsch store in Bangalore for which they end up paying more than if they'd bought it in Manhattan anyway.
It's another thing entirely to acknowledge the fact that India is changing and dynamic (and always has been), BUT to dislike and critique some of the changes which are taking place. If the rest of the world has such a profound effect on Indian popular culture, why should those in the diaspora be afraid to weigh in as well?
This, of course, applies throughout South Asia and across the South Asian diaspora. I just mentioned India because the thread is about the India Day celebrations.
I was surprised the event was so lean on food. The India Day parade in Chicago, at least when I used to live there, was always held on Devon Avenue, the mecca of Indian food in North America. Other than the food, there wasn't much to the parade. Once two warring parties held separate parades. People wondered which one was the official India Day parade. I have seen the same politics with the Trinidadian Carnival in Miami.
If ever we have an India day celebration here, which is quite rare, most of it consists of dosa's prepared in stalls and little children performing Bollywood numbers. *yawn*
Oh, and it's not like anyone socialises either. Most have already formed clans(Gujju, Punjabi, etc.) and strangers snub each other. Suprisingly(or not) the Tamils who grew up in North India and the Tamils from Madras(or hardcore as my dad calls them) have their own groups. We sit outside somewhere.
You know what I miss about living in a big desi center as Chicago? All those associations formed along regional or ethnic lines? I used to head one of them. Had a ball. Lots of cultural shows, great buffets, shared experiences from our past - many of us went to the same kindergartens back in India - some healthy backbiting and petty politics, and all for $50 per year memmbership fee. I guess it is a first gen thing.
In South Florida, where I live now, we have over 50,000 desis but only a few such associations.
Floridian, not sure if you're Tamilian, but I once remember seeing a flyer from the somewhat-active Sooth Florida Tamizh Sangam. For those who don't know, Sooth means ass in Tamizh. If only they knew they had inadvertently printed the truth about themselves.
Excuse me for being un-PC but when did Madrasis become Tamillians?
Hi Miss Saheli:
Hey Chick Pea!GO FIGHTING MANGOSTEENS!
:-D
we should totally have a mangosteen float at one of these. . .
OMG, I am TOTALLY for it..and this float will travel across the continent promoting mangoosteen awareness... in parades, gatherings, and festivals ;)
Gasp, my family in TO wasn't aware of this delicacy before I mentioned it on my neverending hunt...and were super amused with my passionate response when we found them... ahhh... just as the NYT article recently put it..This is like seeing a unicorn, .. :)
Manoj, I am not a Tamilian. And why do you think those Tamilians were asses who deserved to the self-slandering typo? Were you once a part of that group and have the inside scoop?
:)) Don't want to name names, but I've been to a bunch of their events, and they end up making fools of themselves, esp. them boring stage dramas. What kind of organisations were you hoping to find in S.Florida? I thought there were Indian organizations that hosted some events here, like the Festival of India.
For some reason i don't think tamilians aren't the only ones making fool of themselves. I have been to an Indian function represented by Northies. I think embarrassing is a kind word to say.
Manoj, I have been to most of the South Florida events. One of the biggest is organized by AIA. The West Indian ones are pretty good, too. There is one organized by the Indo Caribbean Assn. The Diwali night at the Shiva mandir on Oakland and 29th St (the Trinidadian crowd) is on a big scale since diwali is huge in Trinidad.
Gay pride fests are the same now. Corporate sponsors, corporate booths...there's very little actual "community" celebration anymore.
...stupid capitalism.
To address the desi-fraternity questions, yes, there happen to be two South Asian-American fraternities in particular which I know are big in PA. IND (http://www.iotanudelta.org/national/), which is based out of Philadelphia I think, and DSI (http://www.deltasigmaiota.org/) which is based out of Pennsylvania State University.
...stupid capitalism.
lets all become unemployed communists. It is good for "culture" and "the people" and "society"
The only thing that could possibly be more lame than a lame parade is people that go to them, complain, and compare. Parades are the dullest, most uninspired piece of crap that ever makes its way down New York's streets. Give it a rest. Let Pakistan dominate the parade scene. Let them dominate in something, for God's sake. If we keep quiet about this, they'll stick to parades and leave us alone.
there is a fraternity for brown people? yes. they are annoying
hey now .. im married to one of the founding IND boys. Granted, he's probably the only one who never drank alcohol and was in charge of all of the money collecting, but hey, still qualifies as a frat boy =)
On the topic of Mangosteens:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/dining/09mang.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5070&en=8e1c020f01db87f3&ex=1156478400
Theres something about the mangosteen, amplified by its longtime unavailability, that has driven its devotees to obsession and hyperbole. Thus Rudyard Kipling wrote in 1902, entranced by the fruits mystique, Youll know what my riddle means / When youve eaten mangosteens.
The only thing that could possibly be more lame than a lame parade is people that go to them, complain, and compare. Parades are the dullest, most uninspired piece of crap that ever makes its way down New York's streets.
I strongly disagree. The Thanksgiving parade and the St Patricks Day parade is one of the most colorful, fun, crowded parades of all parades, not counting a ton of other country pride parades that are huge in the city. As someone who works right on 5th Ave this is one of those rare pleasures of life I am grateful for. I love parades. A lame parade is a lame parade is a lame parade. All parades are NOT lame parades. The Indian parade however IS lame.
From what I've been told, the Desi fraternities are all gay organizations. Lots of male bonding events.
as an Indian, I would say indian independence should be celebrated in india or may be celebrated in embassies and indian oversees mission.
if you are proud to be indian and want to really celebrate , come to india and show your pride.
on the other hand I wouldnt want Americans to allow the immigrants to celebrate their individual country days in public.
As I see it, all the india day celebration is just an opportunity for indian businesses to sell,or some desi chicks dance to bollywood songs. its sort of trade show in the name of india.
no real national pride there!!
1st time I went to this.
missed the prade itself. Ignored the 'stage performers'.
Interested in two things:
1. Quality & Quantity of pretty ladies
2. Food
Both were fine. I left happy.
I agree with bombaiaa.
Infact, if it were an official India Trade Fair, it would be better, bigger and more people would attend. Shun the nationalistic slogans. Use it to make money (and keep the chicks dancing & food tasty).
Capitalism Zindabad.
Are there pictures from the Portland event online that anyone knows of?
To anyone who is disappointed with the India Day parade:
Why not collect a bunch of friends and join the parade. It will be good exercise and a way to enhance the turnout.
You can watch the world from the sidelines, or you can jump in and change the world a little. The problem with desis is that being educated and somewhat affluent, we are not joiners. Look at the St.Patrick's Day parades. Hordes of poor Irish people in NY and Chicago saw it as their only opportunity to show off, and there they went parading. Before you knew it, the non-Irish found out it was a good party and joined in the parade. I just don't see hordes of Indians joining anything - buying tickets to listen to Himesh Reshamiya does NOT count.
According to this article:
Bipasha Basu was reportedly mistreated by a couple of New Jersey parade organizers
i read about this in a local newspaper also. She was supposed to be the Grand Marshall, but couldn't make it due to this mishap.
True. I should change my "NYC" to Manhattan-below-96th-Street.Now if you want to see a Parade...
NYC peeps,
The West India Day Parade, one of the coolest parades in NYC, is happening today. For those who want to check it out, come to B'lyn.





