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October 10, 2006

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There are two types of ABDs - those who live the daily, 9-to-5 grind, and those who live … on the edge. The punk ones, the ones who scandalize the aunties. Well, I’m sure that aunties across America have been doing some tutting about the actions of Jabeen Akhtar, who joins Ravi Chand in the audacious desi animal rights activist hall of fame. [Thanks DJ Drrrty Poonjabi]

Jabeen is an animal rights activist with PETA who “painted tiger stripes on her nearly nude body and sat in a cage in downtown Charlotte, N.C.” to protest the way that circuses treat the wild animals in their acts:

In a letter … Akhtar explained she “appeared caged, nude, and painted like a tiger in downtown Charlotte, N.C., to draw attention to the way animals suffer in circuses like the Ringling Bros and Barnum & Bailey Circus.

“Although it was uncomfortable to sit on the pavement exposed to the public, the hour I spent sitting on the sidewalk was nothing compared to what the animals go through every day of their short, miserable lives,” she said. [Link]

PETA alleges the circus commits numerous violations against the Animal Welfare Act, backing up the claim with case documentation and hidden video footage. Among the grievances: inhumane storage of animals, torture with electric rods and bull hooks, neglect leading to suffering and death, intentional killing of animals afflicted with illnesses. [Link]

I admire Akhtar. Not only did she take a peaceful yet eye-catching stand for what she believed in, she’s also an employee of the EPA. Now that takes chutzpah.

However, she also selected a demonstration where she was protesting a private organization, not a government policy. Furthermore, she was fully within her first-amendment rights to do so, and didn’t break any laws, even decency ordinances. Explained a PETA spokesman:

… despite Akhtar’s lack of clothing, “We were well within our First Amendment rights.” Akhtar was wearing “panties and pasties,” he said, and police officers were friendly. [Link]

I’ll bet they were.`Purring with delight, probably. Of course, some people missed the content of the message for its form:

Between noon and 1pm, males on their lunch breaks stopped in front of the Bank of America building to snap photos of the half-nude woman. One of them, when asked how he felt about animal treatment in the circus, responded, “I want her to move that sign so I can see her boobs…” [Link]

Still, PETA feels this is an effective way to get their point across, and apparently have a whole campaign of similar acts planned:

Marta Holmberg, an intern with PETA on the anti-circus nudism tour, defended the tactic: “The way society is today, you have to do things like this for people to pay attention…” [Link]

I guess there are some people who wont take (alleged) mistreatment of animals lion down.

[For those of you who are (ahem) fans of Ms. Akhtar’s, here’s a larger copy of that image above]

Related posts: John Abraham strips for PETA, Ravi Chand, melon eater

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88 comments

 1 · Red Snapper on October 10, 2006 05:33 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Hot blogging! Kiran Desai just won the Booker Prize, just watched the anouncement on TV.


 2 · Red Snapper on October 10, 2006 05:44 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

uhh, this is one of those posts where I have to constrain myself from expressing my thoughts on the subject for fear of revealing too much about myself, but this picture of Jabeen in tiger make-up on all fours in a cage may cause me to have a sleepless night tonight.

*ahem*


 3 · sirc on October 10, 2006 05:49 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Hold that tiger...Hold that tiger.
Grrrrrrrrrr.


 4 · siddhartha on October 10, 2006 05:53 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Wow.


 5 · hedonistic hobo on October 10, 2006 06:02 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Hi. I wish the movement was as abuzz in India where the treatment of animals is truly pitiful. The fact that tigers, despite the high profile Project Tiger have all but disappeared from the Jim Corbett National Tiger Reserve is just one of many such transgressions.

Thanks for the post on Kiran Desai, I guess now I'll run out and buy the book.

Cheers!


 6 · tamasha on October 10, 2006 06:09 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I guess there are some people who wont take (alleged) mistreatment of animals lion down.
I'm dying over here. DYING.


 7 · meenbeen on October 10, 2006 06:11 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

So which type of ABD is Jabeen? She is a great example of 'aunties be damned' for the sake of doing/saying what needs to be done/said, and we should commend her for that, instead of suggesting she's a 'punk' (in the negative sense of the word, anyway). Who says you can't work a nine-to-five and change from pinstripes to tiger stripes!? Not me.


 8 · Ennis on October 10, 2006 06:13 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Around here we use punk in the positive sense, in terms of attitude.


 9 · Vikram on October 10, 2006 06:32 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

to quote William Blake : "Tiger, tiger, burning bright !"


 10 · Red Snapper on October 10, 2006 06:42 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

It's the way she's painted the whiskers coming out from her black tigress nose that makes it so perfect.


 11 · Ennis on October 10, 2006 06:43 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

You've clearly been looking at the close-up shot, haven't you ;)


 12 · tamasha on October 10, 2006 06:46 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

In my experience, "punk" differs from "a punk."

Example: Akhtar is punk would be more of a compliment than Akhtar is a punk.

Wiki-punk.


 13 · Huey on October 10, 2006 06:50 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Red Snapper, I must second that. After a crappy day at work, Jabeen's picture REALLY made my day.


 14 · GujuDude on October 10, 2006 06:55 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Well, I guess some like to celebrate Halloween early.

Trick or treat!!!!


 15 · Red Snapper on October 10, 2006 07:04 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

God Bless Peta Ennis. I think I remember an Indian lady in London doing some nude protest for them. Let me do a google and check.


 16 · Red Snapper on October 10, 2006 07:13 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Here it is. Naked protest in London by Peta led by Anita Singh. No way as, ummm, diverting as Jabeen.

This is great stuff.



 17 · MG on October 10, 2006 07:20 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

>>One of them, when asked how he felt about animal treatment in the circus, responded, “I want her to move that >>sign so I can see her boobs…”

my thoughts exactly, caged tigers don't hold up signs, whats up with that??
Can somebody post a picture taken from the back...please!


 18 · No Desh on October 10, 2006 07:27 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Can somebody post a picture taken from the back...please!

That takes guts to voice out what the rest of "us" were wanting/thinking!


 19 · tash on October 10, 2006 07:38 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Well Ms. Akhtar's protest certainly charmed more than one group of animals!...

Poor girl, she thought people were lookin' at the sign and being made aware of animal rights...

She look too much like my friend Shez for me to have a girl crush on her, but purr...all for a good cause I guess. I hope at least one person who saw her now wants to do something about those circus bears.


 20 · Manish Vij on October 10, 2006 07:46 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

John Abraham also stripped for PETA.


 21 · Ennis on October 10, 2006 07:47 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
She look too much like my friend Shez for me to have a girl crush on her,

Is she single? ;)


 22 · Ennis on October 10, 2006 07:50 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Manish - thx, updated


 23 · Ms Fink Nottle on October 10, 2006 07:50 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Thanks for a great post, Ennis. I heart Jabeen Akhtar! Also John Abraham. Anyone who tries to give a voice to some of those most without a voice in our speceisist society :).


 24 · tash on October 10, 2006 07:53 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Thank you Manish for bringing a bit of gender equality into perving on hotties being aware of tragic animal rights violations.

Ennis, keep your paws off my Shez! She's not even 20 yet. Also she lives much too far away, in too cold a climate for a tiger...

;)


 25 · Salil Maniktahla on October 10, 2006 08:48 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Eh, I'm not that impressed. She doesn't look trustworthy to me. I bet she's a cheetah.


 26 · Ennis on October 10, 2006 08:50 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Salil, you just had t'ger there, didn'tcha.


 27 · Lilas on October 10, 2006 08:56 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

She's not a cheetah, she's clearly bear.


 28 · No von Mises on October 10, 2006 09:16 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Is she single? ;)


Is she gonna stand up? ;)


 29 · Mr Kobayashi on October 10, 2006 10:49 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I'd contribute to the discussion, but cat got my tongue.


 30 · Ennis on October 10, 2006 10:52 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Mmmmmhmmmmm. The missus around, is she? While the cat's away ...


 31 · Salil Maniktahla on October 11, 2006 12:09 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I can't believe no one in this tasteless crew has misused the "p" word yet.

Anyway, I totally volunteer to rub her tummy.


 32 · A P P L E on October 11, 2006 12:25 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Just to add to the mix... wanted to point out this article: PETA: Where Only Women Are Treated Like Meat, by Nikki Craft..Its a little old (school), but interesting regardless.

...PETA objectifies women and undermines feminist principles of gender deconstruction. Focusing on individual campaigns like the “I’d Rather Go Naked than Wear Fur” advertisements, I argue that, instead of furthering the animal rights cause and supporting similar movements, PETA actually validates and perpetuates violence and harassment against women and, because of interconnecting ideologies, animals too. These activisms make “strange bedfellows” because while both seek to disempower patriarchal dichotomies that place men over women and humans over animals, PETA, by displaying sexually oppressive advertisements campaigning for anti-fur and vegetarian platforms renders both movements ineffective.

Not saying that Jabeen is a naive dupe (far from it) who is just consenting to her own patriarchal exploitation (that would deny her any kind of agency which she of course has)....but I think these kinds of critiques of PETA's choices are really thought provoking.


 33 · No Desh on October 11, 2006 12:39 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
no one in this tasteless crew has misused the "p" word yet.

Panthera tigris? come 'ere panthera....


 34 · Huey on October 11, 2006 12:39 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Speaking of women painted as tigers, I saw another hottie, the curvy FHM magazine model Vida Guerra (of Chappelle's Show fame) painted as a tiger also.

http://www.2damnhot.com/babes/vida_guerra.shtml

Must be an epidemic...a good one. I declare the painted tigress as the ultimate Halloween costume for 2006.


 35 · bengali on October 11, 2006 12:43 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

If the comments on this thread is anything to go by, then PETA's tactics aren't really working. 32 posts and still no discussion about the perils of being animals in circuses and what dull auntie-abiding feeble minded Joe Publics can do to help said animals.


 36 · xnomad on October 11, 2006 12:54 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Want to see some really cool painted tigers, you should check out the Pulikali Festival in Thrissur, Kerala held every year during the Onam season.


 37 · Shruti on October 11, 2006 01:03 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Oh look, SM is not just a bunch of bros. Thanks A P P L E and bengali. I don't want to feel sorry for her because that would undermine her agency, and she deserves the benefit of the doubt about her convictions. Still, I have a lot of issues with PETA, one of which being what A P P L E mentioned. Also check out PETA's "Animal Liberation" campaign. I can agree with them on a certain level, but there's something really unsettling about comparing animal exploitation to human slavery, misogyny and genocide.


 38 · sakshi on October 11, 2006 01:13 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
I can agree with them on a certain level, but there's something really unsettling about comparing animal exploitation to human slavery, misogyny and genocide.

It isn't...to me...


 39 · Dharma Queen on October 11, 2006 01:24 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

It's not unsettling to me, either. There exists a common link between the degradation and torture of women, children, slaves, animals - the torturers of these groups often happen to be the same kind of people (if not actually the same people). Studies have shown that there is a high risk of domestic abuse in homes where animals have been found to be abused. Nor do I think PETA is wrong to show how the dehumanization of slaves and the torture of animals are both rooted in the same sentiment - contempt for life.

I recently became a vegetarian for these very reasons - I don't see why the life of an animal is of less value than my own, why its pain should weigh less with me than a human's.


 40 · bengali on October 11, 2006 01:39 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
I recently became a vegetarian for these very reasons - I don't see why the life of an animal is of less value than my own, why its pain should weigh less with me than a human's.
The life of an animal is of less value than your own is because you are a rational and intelligent creature. You can use your intelligence to do good and great things. (that doesn't mean we should treat animals with contempt though.)

 41 · Toshini on October 11, 2006 01:48 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

loved the comments on feminism and PETA. really interesting


 42 · Dharma Queen on October 11, 2006 01:50 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Bengali,

By the same logic, the lives of less intelligent/less rational humans are worth less than the lives of more intelligent/rational ones...we've been down that road before and the results are horror and chaos. Intelligence and reason are not criteria by which we should judge the value of any particular life.


 43 · Ravinder G on October 11, 2006 01:52 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
If the comments on this thread is anything to go by, then PETA's tactics aren't really working. 32 posts and still no discussion about the perils of being animals in circuses and what dull auntie-abiding feeble minded Joe Publics can do to help said animals.

Wow, that observation speaks for itself. heh. Can't refute it.


 44 · Salil Maniktahla on October 11, 2006 01:53 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

bengali:

If the comments on this thread is anything to go by, then PETA's tactics aren't really working. 32 posts and still no discussion about the perils of being animals in circuses and what dull auntie-abiding feeble minded Joe Publics can do to help said animals.

Dude, she's hot, she took off all her clothes and got down on all fours in a cage, painted like a tiger. Do you really for one moment think this was about animal rights? I mean, really.

You know what would have raised awareness? If she'd gained 100lbs, stuck two broom handles in her mouth, and painted herself like a harbor seal, and then let everyone club her.


 45 · A P P L E on October 11, 2006 02:06 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Do you really for one moment think this was about animal rights? I mean, really

I think bengali was pretty muchagreeing with you on this...that if the aim was to actually draw attention to animal rights issues, PETA missed the mark. All that registers is: ooh, naked lady. Not: exploited circus animals pay too high a price to keep us entertained.


 46 · Salil Maniktahla on October 11, 2006 02:16 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Well, yes. Likewise, I was agreeing with her. The whole thing is silly. Let's get back to discussing her fatuous feline defiance.


 47 · tash on October 11, 2006 02:17 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Thanks Dharma Queen for your views on the links on torturing discriminated humans and animals.

I wish I had the willpower to be a vegetarian because I think there is an unncecessary division between supporters of human and environmental causes...the way that animals are treated, even under current legislation in western countries, does seem like unnecessary cruelty.

Oops maybe I'm not being true to the spirit of this thread...maybe I should say something about cheetahs or purring...silly me for thinking the poor chicky's point was to get us talking about animal welfare...


 48 · Salil Maniktahla on October 11, 2006 03:18 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

"Poor chicky?"

She's a federal employee. Her email address is publicly available thanks to many many documents available on the federal register and the EPA docket. She is no doubt going to get reamed by the EPA for this. Trust me, I know this firsthand from being reamed by the EPA myself for being involved with NetSAP-DC in 2004. If she did this lightly, she's stupid as hell. But I think she's trying to leverage a career change. This was a publicity stunt.

I agree that animal cruelty is horrible, and that in the West it's not taken very seriously. It's definitely not treated as a crime in most parts of Asia, including India. Animals in America and Europe are afforded some protections, thanks to legislation spearheaded by the likes of PETA.

But generally, I don't think there are unnecessary divisions between animal and environmental concerns. Industrial runoff intersects with animal rights on occasion, but the two issues are fairly distinct. How do you conflate a coal-fired plant that exceeds particulate emissions regulations with a guy who farms dogs out for experimentation in labs? Or are you talking about endangered species? That tends to be linked with habitat degradation. But those sorts of situations are treated both as an animal-welfare situation and as a habitat-preservation situation (a la the spotted owl).

I'm not following?


 49 · yeti on October 11, 2006 03:19 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
You know what would have raised awareness? If she'd gained 100lbs, stuck two broom handles in her mouth, and painted herself like a harbor seal, and then let everyone club her.

Best line ever.

I think I usually hate what Salil says but this is pure gold.


 50 · Salil Maniktahla on October 11, 2006 03:31 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Yeti:
Thanks! And the next time you're funny or witty, I'll happily backhand a compliment to you, too! Now, don't keep me waiting.


 51 · Yeti on October 11, 2006 03:47 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I'm never witty or funny. Usually just self-righteous in a lefty sort of way. I'm also very, very attractive. Love, yeti


 52 · Yeti on October 11, 2006 03:51 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

wait, Salil, I'm sorry. I actually mixed you up with someone else. I apologize, seriously. I looked at your posts and realized that I don't hate your shit. Now I just look like [more of an] ass. Sorry.


 53 · tashie on October 11, 2006 04:12 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Aww Yeti, that was the best retracted snark I've seen yet on a thread about a naked Indian girl painted with tiger stripes...

I still think Salil that she probably was really trying to raise awareness about the issue. Move into a career as what? A cage sitting naked girl? Although, judging from some of the comments on here, there's a lot of demand to meet that kinda supply...


 54 · DJ Drrrty Poonjabi on October 11, 2006 05:46 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Awesome, my original three-word-comment linking to a barely clothed Vedic vixen (that's right, I went there) got turned into a full post! Wow indeed, Sid.

I actually found this article back in February of 06 and chose not to submit it to SM: I wanted to keep her safe from the ruthless clutches of the blogosphere and all to myself but, once I found the SM post about Ravi Chand, I knew I had to speak up. @=)

Someone should really introduce Ravi and Jabeen. He's certainly got a better chance with her than I do: if I were able to win a date with Jabeen I'd probably do something really stupid like picking her up in a brand new Hummer (with full leather interior, of course), taking her to grab some burgers (cooked rare, of course), going to a Ringling Bros. show (front row seats, of course), and then clubbing some baby seals (to death, of course).

Then we'd make sweet, sweet love (on a bearskin rug, of course).

Anyways, thanks Ennis for this post, I've enjoyed reading the comments as much I did examining Ms. Akhtar's photo for any possible anomalies in her body paint. Best quote in this thread award goes to Salil.

You know what would have raised awareness? If she'd gained 100lbs, stuck two broom handles in her mouth, and painted herself like a harbor seal, and then let everyone club her.

Second place goes to the Don Juan who expectorated this pearl:

One of them, when asked how he felt about animal treatment in the circus, responded, “I want her to move that sign so I can see her boobs…

 55 · Ennis on October 11, 2006 08:12 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Apple:

...PETA objectifies women and undermines feminist principles of gender deconstruction.

The other two examples of PETA ads/performances we've written about here (Ravi Chand and Abraham) are of men.


 56 · BrooklynBrown on October 11, 2006 08:12 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

What a funny repressed lot y'all are, as if you're channeling Priyantha Silva.

Anyway, according to Friendster, Jabeen Akhtar is married.


 57 · BrooklynBrown on October 11, 2006 08:21 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Best quote is actually bengali's (because of how true it was): "If the comments on this thread is anything to go by, then PETA's tactics aren't really working. 32 posts and still no discussion about the perils of being animals in circuses and what dull auntie-abiding feeble minded Joe Publics can do to help said animals."

Second is Ennis's gem (because I love puns): "I guess there are some people who wont take (alleged) mistreatment of animals lion down."

And third is Salil's hilarious: "You know what would have raised awareness? If she'd gained 100lbs, stuck two broom handles in her mouth, and painted herself like a harbor seal, and then let everyone club her."

This has been a highly amusing set of comments from everyone.


 58 · Ennis on October 11, 2006 08:45 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
"If the comments on this thread is anything to go by, then PETA's tactics aren't really working. 32 posts and still no discussion about the perils of being animals in circuses and what dull auntie-abiding feeble minded Joe Publics can do to help said animals."

And yet, if it hadn't been for this stunt, we wouldn't have blogged it (no desi angle, innit?). Having blogged it, I included a description of PETA's complaints, and a link to the website where they substantiate their claims. All y'all have read their accusations, even if you haven't clicked through. It's having some effect.

Geez - do you want to discourage them from using more near naked desis in their campaigns? Geez.

She's a federal employee. Her email address is publicly available thanks to many many documents available on the federal register and the EPA docket. She is no doubt going to get reamed by the EPA for this. Trust me, I know this firsthand from being reamed by the EPA myself for being involved with NetSAP-DC in 2004. If she did this lightly, she's stupid as hell. But I think she's trying to leverage a career change. This was a publicity stunt.

Salil - I thought she was (ahem) covered for the reasons that I discuss above - she broke no laws, and she was protesting a private entity. Please explain ...


 59 · Besharam on October 11, 2006 08:46 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

What I want to know is who helped her put that body paint on :O !


 60 · Manish Vij on October 11, 2006 08:56 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
She is no doubt going to get reamed by the EPA for this.

This stunt happened 8 months ago, so any reaming is long since over.

she was protesting a private entity

Salil is protesting this entity's privates.


 61 · DesiDawg on October 11, 2006 09:37 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Meoooooowwwwwwwwwww

Enough said!


 62 · Dharma Queen on October 11, 2006 11:16 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Apple,
I was with you until I checked out John Abraham's pics. I am 100% behind his objectification (the green onion skirt was a nice touch, in my humble opinion, makes you want to just reach out and, um, adjust it...)


 63 · Mr Kobayashi on October 11, 2006 11:43 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Salil is protesting this entity's privates.

Arrey.


 64 · GujuDude on October 11, 2006 11:50 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Thunder, Thunder, Thunder... THUNDERCATS HOOOOOOOO!!!!!


 65 · Vikram on October 11, 2006 12:25 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Wonder if she will be soon protesting against the mistreatment of cockroaches:

Cockroach-eating contest bugs animal group

"Insects do not deserve to be eaten alive especially for a gratuitous marketing gimmick," PETA spokeswoman Jackie Vergerio told Reuters
Link



 66 · sa on October 11, 2006 12:34 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

I don't buy this. She did this only because of her own need for attention on some pyschological level. There are other more effective and less personal attention grabbing ways to do things. Her husband has got to be thrilled that a bunch of lunch time perverts have naked photos of his wife on their home computers and are masturbating to it.


 67 · WTF on October 11, 2006 12:38 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
a bunch of lunch time perverts have naked photos of his wife on their home computers and are masturbating to it.

Thundercat fetish? Speak for yourself, Cyckrano.


 68 · siddhartha on October 11, 2006 12:43 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Her husband has got to be thrilled that a bunch of lunch time perverts have naked photos of his wife

Oh, I'm sure she obtained her husband's permission. Husband? WTF is right. Who says she's married? And since when does anyone other than she have the right to decide what to do with her body?


 69 · Dharma Queen on October 11, 2006 12:46 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

See Apple, men drooling over women do not bug me nearly so much as idiots like sa who imply we should all crawl under burqas and stay quietly at home so our 'possessors' don't have to worry about other men drooling over us...this species of idiot never makes similar comments about men like John Abraham who do the same thing.


 70 · (caught) Red (handed) Snapper on October 11, 2006 12:49 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Her husband has got to be thrilled that a bunch of lunch time perverts have naked photos of his wife on their home computers and are masturbating to it.

Actually, I did that over breakfast.


 71 · Kurma on October 11, 2006 12:57 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
Anyway, according to Friendster, Jabeen Akhtar is married.
Since when is that a problem?

 72 · Puliogre in da USA on October 11, 2006 12:58 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
A cage sitting naked girl?

I gotta get me one of those...


 73 · sa on October 11, 2006 01:05 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
this species of idiot never makes similar comments about men like John Abraham who do the same thing.

John Abraham, whoever he is, is also retar*ed if he got naked, painted himself, and sat in a cage at lunch time. So is anyone else that does this.

Like I said in my original post, there are far more constructive avenues to pursue that will have more of an impact than simply using nudity to get attention. And smart women know that.

-the idiot


 74 · H1Biyatch on October 11, 2006 01:06 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
I recently became a vegetarian for these very reasons - I don't see why the life of an animal is of less value than my own, why its pain should weigh less with me than a human's.

This is fabulous, and I'm also a vegetarian, but it would be an oversight on all of our parts to think it stops here. Every single one of us that lives in a house or apartment, who plays in the park, goes to the mall, or drives on paved roads has contributed to the suffering of animals. Animal value isn't just about not eating the cute wittle furry guys, or protesting bessie the cow being turned into some overpriced House of Dereon purse. The responsibility of displacing animals from their natural habitat falls on the entire modern society. Calculated management of the animal populations is necessary; if our livelihoods have pushed animal populations into smaller areas of occupation, they will become overpopulated and the boundaries become blurred. Then you have all sorts of weird shit like mountain lions alligators, or bears wandering into Stop N Shop parking lots or elementary school playgrounds.


 75 · siddhartha on October 11, 2006 01:07 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
And smart women know that.

Thanks for letting us know. I was going to ask a smart woman what she knew, but you've saved me the trouble.


 76 · Salil Maniktahla on October 11, 2006 02:48 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Man, one of the problems with living on the West Coast is that I miss so much commenting before getting up around 11am. :)

Yeti: sorry for the return snark. Apology accepted!

I still think Salil that she probably was really trying to raise awareness about the issue. Move into a career as what? A cage sitting naked girl? Although, judging from some of the comments on here, there's a lot of demand to meet that kinda supply...

Modeling? A Penthouse spread? Anything that showcases her good looks as opposed to her brain? Those jobs generally pay a lot better and are much more ego-gratifying than filing documents about air quality and whether a medical devices should fit under certain regulatory guidelines and all that. I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out she no longer works for the EPA. She may have pulled the stunt 8 months ago, but I've gotten three email forwards about it in the last day, so it seems like the publicity is current.


 77 · chick pea on October 11, 2006 03:09 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

i think salil, in the publicity interim and likley getting booted from the EPA, she became the director of this promo, sans the paint and whiskers... yes, the less sexy version to be compassionate and promote a 'meatless' day..


 78 · Ennis on October 11, 2006 03:15 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Salil - don't civil servants have some union protections against getting fired? If she had been protesting govt policy, she would have been vulnerable, but a protest against the circus?

p.s. are they forwarding this story, or another version of it?


 79 · desidork on October 11, 2006 04:20 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

She has a muslim name. Where are the fatwas against her for posing nude in front of kafirs? :)


 80 · Manish Vij on October 11, 2006 09:43 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
I've gotten three email forwards about it in the last day, so it seems like the publicity is current.

That's just the SM effect :)


 81 · bengali on October 12, 2006 12:23 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
And yet, if it hadn't been for this stunt, we wouldn't have blogged it (no desi angle, innit?). Having blogged it, I included a description of PETA's complaints, and a link to the website where they substantiate their claims. All y'all have read their accusations, even if you haven't clicked through. It's having some effect.

Geez - do you want to discourage them from using more near naked desis in their campaigns? Geez.


Nah mate, your post was fine - I was just lamenting the dearth of "those poor circus animals" sentiments :)

PETA falls under the 'infantile left' category - they are an annoying organisation with irrational goals. We should probably pay more attention to the WWF and RSPCA than these fringe idiots.

Dharma,
You are right that using intelligence to determine value is not a good idea. But we live in an ecological system comprised of many interacting life forms and so it's difficult to live without killing (and thereby assigning value to the life of a creature). Do the farmers from whom you buy your vegetables use pesticides? Should I let termites eat my house? If I get head lice should I just let them thrive in my hair? If it is OK to kill in these instances why isn't it OK to kill to eat? Killing is killing is killing regardless of the size of the creature. Although it is well intentioned, I don't think your philosophy is something humans can achieve without being hypocritical at some point (unless of course if we go back to living in caves and gathering berries).


 82 · SkepMod on October 12, 2006 12:14 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

with regard to Ravi Chand's claims that veganism makes him better in bed - bro, please!

if that were the case, the human race would be vegetarian by now.


 83 · Veg Playa on October 12, 2006 12:17 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)
with regard to Ravi Chand's claims that veganism makes him better in bed

The veggier the berry, the sweeter the juice.


 84 · jgl on October 12, 2006 12:22 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

You know, this whole stunt is just so pathetic and, excuse me, slutty. There! Someone said it!


 85 · Dharma Queen on October 12, 2006 12:31 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Bengali,

Actually, like a good Hindu, I have nothing against death. If the chicken I ate had had a pleasant existence, and a painless death, I wouldn't have strong objections to its dying to feed me. If it comes down to me and the chicken, I'll choose me - I'm no Gandhi. What I do object to is the suffering imposed on animals in the obscene animal-production industries out there - treating life as a commodity to be sold. There's an unnecessary disregard practiced there - a contempt for life - for the sake of pure profit.

As a consumer, it's in my power to influence these practices to some extent. I try to buy organic, local produce from small farmers, to recycle as much as possible, to refuse plastic bags at the grocery store. I won't buy leather shoes or boots anymore. I agree it's impractical to aim to eliminate all suffering by animals, but shouldn't we strive toward it?


 86 · I AM NaseemMan on November 3, 2006 09:32 AM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

The people who talk about this protest, and then turn around and say her protest was ineffectual are pretty stupid. J-E-D-I mind trick. That protest did EXACTLY what it was intended to do...get people talking, like it did on this blog. You say you think "naked chick" instead of "suffering tigers" --I guarantee this... next time you see a tiger at a circus, you're going to remember her, you're going to remember that she was protesting it, and you're going to spend a little more time looking and thinking about that tiger. In other words, you might have ignored the animal before, but you won't now. You think this kind of protest is all in-your-face but its long term effect is more subtle. And they know it. We studied PETA's tactics in my comm class. They are VERY effective, and with no advertising budget, they've beaten these multi-million dollar companies with huge advertising budgets at their own game.

Salil. Slam. Saying she did it for attention to herself--I disagree. Looks like some nutso Christian site went after her personally. And a looker like that ain’t hurtin for attention. jgl- you think everything is pathetic and slutty. You’d have all WHITE women wear hijabs if you could.


 87 · Salil Maniktahla on December 29, 2006 12:03 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Hahahahahah!

I just came back to this thread because I wanted to see her naked again. And there's that final comment by "I am NaseemMan."

Dude, I've seen plenty of tigers on TV and at least two in a zoo since then. I will happily confess that not once did I think about this girl at ANY of those moments.

I do think about her when I'm alone in my room, though. It generally has nothing to do with animal rights.

So her mission was not accomplished with me, anyway. Yeah, it got people talking, but it didn't exactly get people talking about animal cruelty. Hell, it didn't even do that ON THIS THREAD.


 88 · Easy on August 15, 2007 08:32 PM · Direct link · “Quote”(?)

Jabeen was a tiger in college too.


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