Just for good measure I'll make the obligatory 'she's hot' comment ;-)

Anna..I know why Indian girls..they have beauty with the brains :) Well thats my way of thinking when I look into those ad boards...

Ardy, you are incorrigible. ;)

NRITechie, that is a very sweet way of thinking. :)

I really appreciate how you SMers realize that having a little fun doesn't mean we are fiddling while Rome burns. THAT weird analogy was born thanks to this comment:

Sree, come on, is it that important to know who this model is? There are tens of thousands of models around the world. There are bigger issues at stake in the world than knowing the name of a model. I mean, really.

There are wars going on. There are primaries for elections that many politicians are fighting for. There is devastation in Kansas city with the twister tornadoes. We have not recovered from Katrina and Rita. There is pet food poisoning, and now it could be pharmaceutical products with glyocol that comes from China. There is corporate and government corporation ... even for student loans. Walter Reed army hospital will soon be closing down. There are immigration and social issues. There are people starving. And there is Queen Elizabeth's visit to the U.S... I could go on and on. So does it really matter what this model's name is? Shall we just call her Rose, perhaps even Jasmine or Yasmin and move on?

Eeek.

Well, I'm going to put my vote in for either "Priya" or "Neha" right now.

I hella say hella. NorCal & proud baby.

There are so few brown faces in commercial advertising its always heartening to see a new one. I do wonder however what image the advertiser is trying to convey with a south asian face alongside a tech product. Duh.

OTOH it was nice to see our Aish doing L'Oreal.

Thass right! Apple is saying "MS, You can't hide the faults of your software by throwing hot brownies at us. Right back at ya!"

I really don't know what SAJA is coming to these days! First the MS girl, now the Apple girl, and the celebrity line-up offering 'quotes' for the mango-fest in between. But at least we here at SM don't get into such silliness. Or do we? :)

Do people agree right off the bat that she has to be South Asian? She could well be Mexican or Peruvian too. (I know, some people would then go, so you mean she is Indian then!) But if she is Indian-from-India, then my guess is she's Telugu-speaking. A GultiGirl. What do you think, GultiGirl? ;)

Chachaji, you're right, if she is of Indian origin, she looks like her parents/she are/is telugu.

"Queen Elizabeth's visit to the U.S" bigger issue then this??

the hot desi girl (who's name I would like to think is Dar es salaam, Dara for short, because her mum and dad hail from Tanzania and actually started the Beckham craze of naming their kids after the city of conception) is holding one of the greatest machines on the world.

The queen sucks raw green eggs. Dara should be on the Ipod ads or be the face of apple when leopard comes out!

I'd peg her as an 'Anjali'. Someone should email stevejobs@apple.com and ask.

i say hella all da time...im not even from norcal..socal for lyfe baby! :D

Did any one else notice the wording on the poster. It says "one to one, personal training at the Apple store".

Are you sure this has got nothing to do with whole "desi tech support" stereotype? Not that I am complaining, I mean who wouldn't want to receive a one on one training from her? :)

I think this image is an extension of a certain theme: dark-skinned (not too dark though), wavy-haired women being used to sell computers and computer-related services.

Somewhere in the deep caverns of Advertisia, the goblins have decided that sex sells, sure, but no one wants to associate straight-haired fun-loving blondes with DSL service. Save that for beer, spas, and, uh, everything else. If it's computers, bring on the brainy-but-fun ambiguously ethnic model. Curls a plus.

For more, see item #2 on this interesting (but yuckily-worded) page.

I must say the apple girl looks more hip, cool, and young. That denim jacket, and those earrings big enough to be used in a Hula Hoop contest. I just can't resist the hipness. The Microsoft office girl was wearing a boring business suit. That's not acceptable.

Therefore, I simply have no choice but to buy every apple product known to man.

#14 "Somewhere in the deep caverns of Advertisia, the goblins have decided that sex sells, sure, but no one wants to associate straight-haired fun-loving blondes with DSL service. Save that for beer, spas, and, uh, everything else. If it's computers, bring on the brainy-but-fun ambiguously ethnic model. Curls a plus."

You are absolutely right. Advertising is all about stereotyping, which is the quickest way to connect with the consumer. Don't look to us for righting the world. We are just trying to move product, make our clients rich, create jobs and economic well-being, raise life expectancy, fight hunger, and a few other assorted things.

Now, if I ever see an Indian girl in a beer commercial, I will not be a happy camper.

Mr. Kobayashi, that was a funny link, and I agree that there could be more to this sort of advertising than meets the eye...but compared to the alternative (few to no non-whites in ads) isn't this better? People used to complain when minorities were under-represented in commercials and print ad media. On balance, even though the psychology behind these ads may be suspicious to an extent, we can't have it both ways.

That girl to me looks like she could have roots in any of the four southern states. Definitely not Mexican or Peruvian, Chachaji!

"People used to complain when minorities were under-represented in commercials and print ad media."

Must have been a long time ago. Either that, or nobody ever thinks their group gets enough exposure. Desis are not too common in ads, and I see more far-eastern Asians in real life than commericals, but Af-Ams (and blacks of other nationalities) are very common actors in advertising, far more than the 12-15% they represent in the total population. The tv commercials I see on cable run about 50-50, black/white. Either that, or I need to get my eyes checked.

Anna, you disappoint. You don't say hella? I'll admit the east coast has tainted me and it's no longer a part of my vocabulary, but I plan on incorporating it again once I'm back in California (as much as the hubby will hate that). But I refuse to use this new "hyphy" word that's going around.

I have noticed a major trend towards including token representatives of all major races in "ensemble" ads. The standard format seems to be to show a black guy, a white couple and an east-asian guy sitting around eating chips/guzzling beer (or bouncing it off the floor).

Now to the speculative part...do you guys think that using desis allows them to reach out to all races at once? Not so white that you don't appeal to the black folks, not so black that you get ignored by the caucasians. Pretty, brown, easy on everyone's eyes.

I know I am on very flimsy ground here, but its worth testing a theory with the Mutiny!

Just for good measure I'll make the obligatory 'she's hot' comment ;-)

I must be one of the kids doing his own thing because in addition to the first "who is this" post, this one's subject also does nothing for me. She probably has wide hips and a happy trail. I stereotype, of course, with no offense intended.

I was surprised that noone knew the woman from the first post.

Now if you guys want another "who is", go here (work safe photographer's site), click on Gallery, and look at the first 2 pics. Wow!

Now if you guys want another "who is", go here (work safe photographer's site), click on Gallery, and look at the first 2 pics. Wow!

Here is the link to the first 2 pics

http://www.globalgypsies.com/fbphoto/gallery/SM1.jpg and http://www.globalgypsies.com/fbphoto/gallery/SM2.jpg

Coincidentally that girl's initials are SM .... She could be a mutineer :-p.

She could be computer-generated. *heehee*

Just for good measure I'll make the obligatory 'she's not' comment ;$

But if she is Indian-from-India, then my guess is she's Telugu-speaking. A GultiGirl. What do you think, GultiGirl? ;)

She does look Gulti. Wonder how long her last name is? ;-) She's quite beautiful too.

aah, when is google going to have a true image search -- you uplaod the image and the name pops up

aah, when is google going to have a true image search -- you uplaod the image and the name pops up

Please. Don't give them ideas! It's not as if they're not already mining everybody's websites, and myspace pages, and flickr photostreams and personal email through gmail etc. But for what you are suggesting, we'd need a lot more improvement in image/pattern recognition technology first, especially if you want real-time image recognition, it's not just a search issue. But even then, they'd first have to create a database where everyone uploads a picture of theirs, taken in some standard pose. Then, for any other picture you want them to recognize, they'd have to run the image recognition etc.

And gulti girl and Avi, thanks for backing me up on my 'guess' :)

I like this girlie -- she didn't straighted out her cruls!! I don't know who she is. But looking at her curls, the question I have for all of you curl girls is what do you put in your hair for non-frizzy curls and do you blow dry?

Then, for any other picture you want them to recognize, they'd have to run the image recognition etc.

which basically would mean this is one issue where ACLU wont get a chance to monitor since this can be done only on a voluntary basis. However, the current Google search which depends on the picture caption and such information can still be made a lot better. It can correlate various pics of the same person/entity and thus build it's mined database and thus mine information about us even more. Of course image recognition is a lot more difficult than speech recognition because of much larger variables in a picture than speech (where diction etc are consistent and thus you can build a more consistent and recognizable signal profile of the speech and use that) and so it's not happening soon.

She looks better than the last chick that was put on Sepia. They don't show enough of her body so I can't comment on weather she is hot or not.. Her face looks ok, it is not ugly, but not quite attractive either, her face is more plain looking..

we'd need a lot more improvement in image/pattern recognition technology first, especially if you want real-time image recognition, it's not just a search issue.
Riya has tried to do something of the sort. They use user-generated tagging to do pattern-recognition inside photographs. I am not sure, though, how they can eliminate false positives entirely. F'rinstance, check out these pictures of Aishwarya Rai. Quality. Maybe there was some human input at Riya's side to create directories a la the original Yahoo search.

Wanna bet that the girl's name starts with either an R or an S?

which basically would mean this is one issue where ACLU wont get a chance to monitor since this can be done only on a voluntary basis.

Unless, of course, they get rights to access the database of people's driver's license and passport photos, which are taken, for analogous reasons, in 'standard poses', and which fall into the grey area between voluntary and required. Of course, it would still need improvements in image recognition, for the reasons you suggest. But this was about not giving them ideas :)

wanna bet the girl is a brahmin ?

The Office '07 billboard is gone? I just saw it the other day, going on to South 101 from the Bay Bridge. (That's Bay as in the San Francisco Bay Area, for those of you hella *not* from NorCal!)

Bengali chick - Paul Mitchell's The Conditioner or the Frizz Ease Serum. And no, no blow drying so the curls stay in tact. Like the girl in the picture ;-)

The Office '07 billboard is gone?
It might have been a little too distracting for all the desi singles. It is what I call an accident waiting to happen *runs* *ducks for cover*

Sadaiyappan, enough. This is a warning. Anna spelled out the following rather clearly:

no comments on skin color, weight, caste or anything else unnecessary, okay? Thanks.

And yet, you wrote:

wanna bet the girl is a brahmin ?

Next time, you're banned. Just like you were before. Your "hot or not" commentary won't be missed.

Apple seems to have discovered something clever: if they put a desi lady in their ads then they will get free ad space on Sepia Mutiny. ;)

Somewhat tangential topic : there are two desi females at my work that routinely change their hair from frizzy to straight, and every point in between. I do not understand what form of advertising they themselves are undertaking, or even why they do it to that extent. Are they trying to re-invent themselves each week?

Neither of them own macs.

Thanks Angel:) Honestly I love the fact that this lovely chica is wearing her hair o'naturale. I get this comment a lot, "You're Indian? I thought all Indians had straight hair." Uhm no, it's call flat ironing my love. I'm so glad Apple didn't think she would look more South Asian with straight hair. Her curls look sultry.

Bengali chick...so agree with you! It seems 99% of the Indian women are addicted to flat ironing or chemicals to make the hair straight. I keep it curly b/c why look like the masses?? :P

Somewhat tangential topic : there are two desi females at my work that routinely change their hair from frizzy to straight, and every point in between. I do not understand what form of advertising they themselves are undertaking, or even why they do it to that extent. Are they trying to re-invent themselves each week?

I'm sure my co-workers think the same thing. I have a love hate relationship with my hair. You want what you don't have. I wish my hair were straight so I could get up and go. Sometimes my curls look fabulous and sometimes I look like I've been electrocuted. When I'm lazy my hair is one frizzy nasty mess. When I'm not horribly lazy or in the curl mood I wear my hair curly. When I'm super on top of sh*t and not lazy at all -- I flat iron my hair. **I know, I need to learn to love my curls**

So these lovely chicks at your work aren't trying to change their image with their hair. It's probably about how much time they have in the morning to do their hair.

Honestly I love the fact that this lovely chica is wearing her hair o'naturale. I get this comment a lot, "You're Indian? I thought all Indians had straight hair."

But, Bengali Chick - to ask this question as gingerly as possible - could it also be, as it looks to me, that she curled out her natural straight hair, to give it, er, 'body'? Just askin'...

So these lovely chicks at your work aren't trying to change their image with their hair. It's probably about how much time they have in the morning to do their hair.

See, this is why standards of beauty need to be altered. Women need to just have a summit, and decide on a day, which from that day forward: all hair will look like Demi Moore's hair from GI Jane, and no more high heels.

But, Bengali Chick - to ask this question as gingerly as possible - could it also be, as it looks to me, that she curled out her natural straight hair, to give it, er, 'body'? Just askin'...

Very true! But I like to believe she's a natural curl girl:)

which from that day forward: all hair will look like Demi Moore's hair from GI Jane

I vote for Julia Roberts' hair from when she does Gloria Steinem impersonations to be the standard :0)

Please. Don't give them ideas

Too late.

In this day and age, there are no more "sequels"...only "ReMiXeS" yo....haha.

BC,

Just as many south asian girls have straight hair.

Women need to just have a summit, and decide on a day, which from that day forward: all hair will look like Demi Moore's hair from GI Jane, and no more high heels.

OT, and sorry for the slight thread jack, but it just has to be said, IMO.

I think this sort of thing happens everyday at most sorority houses (with apologies to any "Greeks" here), but in the opposite direction. Every sorority girl seems to have the same hairstyle, clothes, handbag and shoes as her sorority sisters.

I'm beginning to notice a similar trend among female desi teenagers and college students...they all have the same length of hair, wear their makeup the same way, etc. I guess it's a sign of how much fashion needs deprive us of individuality.

I think this sort of thing happens everyday at most sorority houses (with apologies to any "Greeks" here), but in the opposite direction. Every sorority girl seems to have the same hairstyle, clothes, handbag and shoes as her sorority sisters.

Exactly! So why not choose a look that is the easiest to prepare? Some alpha female has to do it, then the minions will follow.

Even further OT, are there any Indian/South Asian sororities? I know of IND in SUNY Binghampton which is comprised of mostly strange and weird people that excel in hopping on one foot, as far as I remember. Perhaps they have the super big directory from which the mystery mentioned above could be solved.

I believe Delta Kappa Delta is a South Asian sorority (or maybe fratority). Not very many chapters yet though.

what do you put in your hair for non-frizzy curls and do you blow dry?

Bengali Chick - wet hair and comb out in shower. wrap in towel to remove excess water... don't let it dry out!!! mix a dollup of bubble&bubble curling cream + very small sequeeze of got2b hair care glued spiking glue hair gel + a generous froth of aussie mousse. mix it all up until it's massive slather of goo covering your hands and then run goo'd fingers through hair. flip and scrunch hair just a bit to get the curls going. if it's a bit crunchy easy off the gel... or just scruch up any crunchy pieces and it'll smooth out.

i HELLA hate my curly hair, but i'm too HELLA lazy to straighten it.

ps... no idea who the girlie is but she looks like a nina to me

Honestly, I never understood the concept of a minority-based fraternity or sorority. The racism we collectively are subjected to really gives us somewhat of shared experience, as it is. I'm not sure I want to spend time learning stupid handshakes and codewords beyond that.

what do you put in your hair for non-frizzy curls and do you blow dry?

My hair's not really curly, more wavy, but I usually blow dry straight, and if I really want it to be wavy, I put some curly mousse (any brand, doesn't really matter) in it, and french braid it loosely before I go to bed, while it's still wet, then I take the braids out in the AM and viola, non frizzy waves. Not sure if this would work on truly curly hair.

HMF: Those two women at your work may be just enjoying the fact that they can look totally different from one day to the next, with minimal effort.

Honestly, I never understood the concept of a minority-based fraternity or sorority

My ex-Greek friends tell me that the real value of a fraternity or a sorority is in the wealth of networking opportunities it creates. It makes sense that minorities might derive the same sort of benefit from it. Certainly, the black Greek fraternities and sororities have recognized this benefit.

Bengali Chick: same advice as Shreepi with a difference...

I have non-frizzy almost Shirley temple curls but only after I style it this way. Shampoo and lightly towel dry. Pour a spoonful of hair oil in your palm (yes, the indian hair oil which comes from coconut, almond, amla, or a combination such as garnier ultra doux oil). Rub hands together and comb thru wet hair till sleek. Let airdry or use diffuser with cold setting. No, your hair won't feel oily or heavy afterward. Dont use any of the chemically enhanced expensive ones. They don't work better. Avoid smelly oils. There's an art to this. Keep trying till you find the right combo of wet hair and oil. If you pull hair back in a tight ponytail afterward, it will dry soft and sleek. You wouldn't believe the amount I've spent on different products before finding this method. Mousse is second best.

desishiksa:
don't you get a headache after going to sleep with wet hair? When I did that I couldn't move my neck for a couple of days!

Certainly, the black Greek fraternities and sororities have recognized this benefit.

That doesn't make intuitive sense. The professional benefits of fraternity membership only really would work if alums reach high level, managerial, executive type positions. These are usually closed off disproportionally to minorities.

These are usually closed off disproportionally to minorities.

I think you're operating on the assumption that Greek houses exist only at "Big State U". They also exist at the historically black colleges, where the houses wouldn't be closed off to black people. That's what I meant by "black Greeks". Minority Greek houses also exist at "Big State U" and they exist precisely because certain minorities felt locked out of Greek culture, and the networking opportunities it offers.

I have observed (only anecdotally) that black Greeks go on to be fairly successful professionals (as do many graduates of the historically black colleges). Maybe they do go on to give a leg up to their fellow black Greeks.

I think HMF was referring to the glass ceiling, not frats being closed off.

Frats/sororities only seem to exist to give 17 year olds a sense of belonging once they're on campus- not sure that networking/getting you a plum job 15 years down the line is how they sell themselves.

not sure that networking/getting you a plum job 15 years down the line is how they sell themselves.

It is, actually. In fact, that's a significant aspect of recruiting. Also, people who become Greek often have family members who were also Greeks (grandparents, parents, older siblings), and these relatives are almost certainly telling future Greeks about the networking advantages of belonging to a Greek house.

Also, it's usually a plum job 5 years down the line, not 15.

Something tells me that 17-year olds with the foresight to think about jobs 5 years down the line are unlikely to view being Greek as a big factor in getting them there. Then again, looks like you were Greek and my observations are just that.

Then again, looks like you were Greek and my observations are just that.

Nope. Wouldn't have touched Greek life with a 10-foot pole.

It had no attraction for me, but I have Greek friends who have really benefited from it. What's more, many of the 17-18 year olds who are attracted to the Greek lifestyle are definitely thinking about what it's going to get them in the future (again, because of stuff that older Greeks in their social circle have told them). Once you get in, you're a Greek for life.

Otherwise, why bother with all the pain of rushing? It's a whole lot easier to adapt to a non-Greek setting anyway, and it's not like you have to be in a frat or sorority to have fun in college. I'm not even sure the Greeks have the best parties anymore.

it's not like you have to be in a frat or sorority to have fun in college

This may be true, but lots of people don't believe it. How true it is depends on which college you attend, of course, and how much they have been 'colonized'.

I have super frizzy hair - no curls, just frizz. The only way I can be out in public without scaring people is to use the evil flat-iron. My dream used to be to have a hairdresser follow me around constantly, armed with products, appliances and I guess, a generator. But lately I'm really tempted to just do a Sinead O'Connor as of old.

I think HMF was referring to the glass ceiling, not frats being closed off.

I was referring to the glass ceiling, that in the real world black people in the greek system don't have access to high level positions any more proportionately than non-black greeks. And any black members of "normal" frats wouldn't be networking with traditionally minority fraternity alumnus. Unless there is interfraternity networking as well as intra. But I doubt that would be inclusive of the minority frats.

Thats the thing, the "normal" frats (those that are non-ethnic in statement, ie mostly white) took the "minority" frats very existence as a thumbed nose, or even a flipped bird. Their reaction was, "what? we're not good enough? you thinnk we're racist? bla bla bla" I can't see that attitude dissipating in the real world.

I'm not even sure the Greeks have the best parties anymore.

It depends on the campus. If its a big city, then usually no. Frats are actually more or less meaningless in a campus like Columbia. But in a small college town, say in some doohickey town upstate, then frats play a much larger role as they have more legacy there. They're usually the beacons of "coolness" that all freshman flock to.

I usually just lurk, but i'm going to come out and say just a few words to the curly haired women here: apply leave in conditioner and finger dry.

All those with frizzy, curly, uncurly hair:

Here is a possibility: http://simplereduce.wordpress.com/2007/05/02/unshampoo/

I'm seriously considering it.

sp

Tash, my mistake-- didn't mean to delete you. Your comment was perfectly fine. Forgive an imperfect intern?

Since nobody has added any inputs on the identity of the "girl", should we finally send the "all desis know each other" theory to the trash bin, once and for all. No one could identify the office 2007 girl either....

rasudha on May 9, 2007 04:31 PM · Direct link Bengali Chick: same advice as Shreepi with a difference...

I have non-frizzy almost Shirley temple curls but only after I style it this way. Shampoo and lightly towel dry. Pour a spoonful of hair oil in your palm (yes, the indian hair oil which comes from coconut, almond, amla, or a combination such as garnier ultra doux oil). Rub hands together and comb thru wet hair till sleek. Let airdry or use diffuser with cold setting. No, your hair won't feel oily or heavy afterward. Dont use any of the chemically enhanced expensive ones. They don't work better. Avoid smelly oils. There's an art to this. Keep trying till you find the right combo of wet hair and oil. If you pull hair back in a tight ponytail afterward, it will dry soft and sleek. You wouldn't believe the amount I've spent on different products before finding this method. Mousse is second best.

I'm trying this tonight girl.... I have spent a fortune on hair products! Much love too all of you and your tips!

Looking at this thread (and quite a few other recent threads), I have to say that civility seems to be returning to this blog...otherwise a thread like this had major potential to get closed by now. Hope I didn't just jinx it all!

Hope I didn't just jinx it all!

Geez, Amitabhji...someone run over a lemon or wave a chili in front of me already. ;) Who needs the bad luck??

close yours eyes, fist full of salt circular rotation over SM's head three times and then thrown in the street!!

Sorry ANNA. It's just that things were looking a little bleak here a few weeks ago (the whole macho Korean mess, the trolling, the bickering, the fatigue that you bloggers were going through, some of us wondering how long this blog would last, etc.) So the relative absence of that lately has been refreshing...anyway, I'm jinxing this even more now, right? OK, I'll shut up now.

I have super frizzy hair - no curls, just frizz. The only way I can be out in public without scaring people is to use the evil flat-iron. My dream used to be to have a hairdresser follow me around constantly, armed with products, appliances and I guess, a generator. But lately I'm really tempted to just do a Sinead O'Connor as of old.

Curly gals - don't bother with the zillions of products (believe me I've tried them ALL) - go get a DevaCurl haircut and have them show you how to manage your curls, however wimpy or wavy-curly-undecided-frizzy they may be. Trust me on this one. Hate to sound like an ad but after 15 years of products and bad haircuts and blowdrying and all that shit, I have finally reached Enlightenment. Give it a shot. There are still times when I'll blowdry straight for a change but the biweekly dance of deep conditioning and leave-in products and the right hairdryer/straightening tool/brush is not one I miss.

The only product you'll still need is an alcohol-free, mildly moisturizing gel to keep the curls frizz-free. Aura Hypoallergenic (from Sally's beauty supply) is the one I love, after trying 'em all out. And a good conditioner - L'Oreal Nature's Therapy or the drugstore one in the orangey red bottle for dry frizzy hair or Matrix Sleek Look all have practically identical ingredients and are all equally good. the Deva conditioner is identical too, but more pricey.

all good :)

i know they've got you working super hard in the bunker...hope they give you red bull to keep you monitoring all the posts!

All these great hair tips and I just shampooed/conditioned my hair :(
I'll have to try them soon. Hair oil...hmm

Geez, Amitabhji...someone run over a lemon or wave a chili in front of me already. ;) Who needs the bad luck??

BTW, I don't know who the girl is, but I'd love it if one of us found out. I'd be kind of proud to see the "two degree" theory actually work for once.

From #42:

I wish my hair were straight so I could get up and go.

Doesn't work that way. If I don't take the time to condition and style my very straight hair, it clumps and separates into a stringy flat mess.

Oddly, I've often wished I had curly hair... so I could get up and go. Imagine just being able to work in some leave-in conditioner, instead of spending fifteen minutes under the blow-dryer. I know, I know, doesn't work that way either. ^__^

Which is why, most days, I do the sloppy bun thing.

just a few words to the curly haired women here: apply leave in conditioner and finger dry.

Oddly, I've often wished I had curly hair... so I could get up and go. Imagine just being able to work in some leave-in conditioner, instead of spending fifteen minutes under the blow-dryer. I know, I know, doesn't work that way either. ^__^

The world would be much nicer of a place without hair.

Bengali Chick, how did your hair oil expt go

I don't think I was fair to it. I fell asleep in wet hair and while I don't have much friz my hair looks kinda crazy. Next time I'll put in the oil and let it air dry instead of sleeping on it.

All

Day 1 of not shampooing and conditioning my hair...I did rinse it and massage my scalp for a couple of mins while in the shower. I feel 2 itchy spots on my scalp...purely psychological I know. But for 20 years, I have shampooed and conditioned my hair everyday. The thought of all the chemicals I washed into the water makes me slightly sick.

I'm going to try to wait for atleast 2 more days before washing my scalp with baking soda and rinsing it with vinegar.

So far my curls and waves seem absolutely normal.

sp

Gotta second the DevaCurl thing -- it has been truly revolutionary for my curls, and once you get used to it, it's second nature. The other thing I suggest is this technique for drying your hair with a microfibre towel http://www.jessicurl.com/Demo/wmp/plunking.html. Looks weird, but you get results...

Bengali Chick on May 10, 2007 12:56 PM · Direct link

Bengali Chick, how did your hair oil expt go

I don't think I was fair to it. I fell asleep in wet hair and while I don't have much friz my hair looks kinda crazy. Next time I'll put in the oil and let it air dry instead of sleeping on it.

:) keep trying girlfriend and keep us updated.

Sadaiyappan, enough. This is a warning. Anna spelled out the following rather clearly:

no comments on skin color, weight, caste or anything else unnecessary, okay? Thanks.

oh i see now. its ok to ramble on about her hair, because somehow that is not a physical attribute.

oh, and for good measure - the MS gal was a fob reflection and the apple one an abd. chew on that bone, babes.

Hippiefob, what is your problem? Do you feel like getting in to a caste battle because the rest of us don't. Sadaiyappan's comment was out of line and your comments are all...weirdly pointless and negative, simultaneously.

One model is 1st gen and one is second? Seriously? Says who? What color is the sky in your world?

no comments on skin color, weight, caste or anything else unnecessary, okay? Thanks.

And unfortunately, we live in a world where hair is very necessary.

And unfortunately, we live in a world where hair is very necessary.

who said?

no comments on skin color, weight, caste or anything else unnecessary, okay? Thanks.

skin color is also unnecessary? Guess you pull the rug from under this site then, no :D?

hairisfair - ok blondie. lighten up. use some fair 'n' lovely.

Hippiefob, this site has discussed the "fairness" issue ad nauseum. Our community's preoccupation with dark skin being undesirable is well-known, here and elsewhere. Perhaps you are new and missed those contentious, draining and hurtful debates, but we don't really need to go down the "Fair and Lovely" road again.

The point of the caveat you are mocking was to discourage comments like, "she's so dark/black" etc, which used to occur the second a female photograph accompanied a post, along with pointless commentary about how fat a woman was.

Hippiefob, if you don't have something constructive to say...your comments will be deleted. You can ask someone to "lighten up" without abusively resorting to calling them "Blondie" or invoking a product many find repulsive.

ok SM intern. just for you, i'll stop with the sarcasm now since its lost here anyway. like all good SM boys and girls, i will agree agree agree. only serious talks from now on. see, i'm totally desi fob, no? political correctness, not in my psyche. sorry for upsetting apple cart and all.

like all good SM boys and girls, i will agree agree agree

Ah, that familiar folderol, the last resort of the wounded, the shoulder-chipped. Everyone is welcome to disagree, as long as they aren't obnoxious about it. There's a difference between sarcasm and calling someone "Blondie".

just for your future reference in your illustrious, non-traditional-career-for-a-desi career as a web moderator: moderators don't fire back and name-call. here i was agreeing with your caveats, and you just want to poke back at me? poor strategy.

anyway, what's wrong with blondie?

skin color is also unnecessary? Guess you pull the rug from under this site then, no :D?

Skin color is inevitable, but no, not necessary.

poor strategy.

As is your relentless trolling, which you've been cited for in the past. You're the one who calls people names, but nice projection.

You see mutineers who may be watching and wondering, we don't ban and delete immediately, we take past comments and behavior in to account first. And "HippieFob" is notorious for being disruptive and then complaining when called on it, all the while attempting to blame us for not getting "sarcasm". What's wrong with "Blondie" is the inherent insinuation that all Blondes are dumb, but you're not looking for me to disambiguate that, you just want to pick fights. Well, do it elsewhere.

I have straight up curly hair, none of this in between stuff. And I have never (even wanted to) blow dry or straighten my hair. After years of pomades, oils, expensive as hell conditioners, mousses, gels, every brand and product I could get my CVS-happy hands on, I found the perfect thing: Dudley's Fantastic Body Setting Lotion, recommended by Hairplay (Hairplay is an amazing salon in San Francisco which is the FIRST SALON EVER from which I didn't have to exit to wash and redo my hair because they had just f*%#$ it up. They do curly hair right). Dudley's is a magic blue liquid for which you have to find your own dilution scheme that will work best for your hair (my mix is 1:2, Dudley's to water). With it, you can do straight, ringlets, scrunched, air dry, blow dry, diffuser, whatever you wish (I do ringlets and air dry). Frizz free and fabulous. It's not cheap ($10/bottle?) but it lasts a year. I live lightly. Everything I own fits into a black hard case Samsonite, and you can bet a leakproof bottle filled with concentrate Dudley's is in there.

Wait a minute. Wasn't this thread closed? Does this make a first?

Damn, I should stop throwing those biodata pics that Papa and Mama give me into the trash. I could be making millions selling them to MicroAppleSoftDovePampers Inc.!

Hello. Myself Mac. Yesterday, myself and my friend, pee-cee, we were going to Indian buffet at Taj Mahal restaurant. Very nice, unlimited fresh naans. Only $6.95 plus tax. He was complaining how photo of his girlfriend was put up on Internets. And now I see mine too. Please not to tell my parents. Girl is not of Patel community.

ummm couldnt be bothered reading all the comments, but i stumbled upon who she is angela de silva
check it
http://imdb.com/name/nm1935623/
cant believe it took an aussie to find out