September 06, 2007
Anjay of the FliesTV
Do you know which Indian dude’s debut is the most hotly anticipated one of this Fall’s television line-up? No, it isn’t Sendhil “I can’t figure out how to speak in an Indian accent even though I’m Indian” Ramamurthy of Heroes. Nor is it Naveen “torture solves everything” Andrews of Lost. The dude that South Asian Americans have their collective eyes on is 12-year-old Anjay Ajodha of Texas. The question is, can he succeed in wresting the reigns of power away from the simpletons within a newly created society known simply as Kid Nation?
40 Kids have 40 days to build a brave new world without adults to help or hinder their efforts. Can they do it? These Kids, ages 8-15, will turn a ghost town into their new home. They will cook their own meals, clean their own outhouses, haul their own water and even run their own businesses including the old town saloon (root beer only). Through it all, they’ll cope with regular childhood emotions and situations: homesickness, peer pressure and the urge to break every rule they’ve ever known.
Will they stick it out? In the end, will these Kids prove to everyone, including their parents, they have the vision to build a better world than the pioneers who came before them? And just as importantly, will they come together as a cohesive unit, or will they abandon all responsibility and succumb to the childhood temptations that lead to round-the-clock chaos? Don’t miss this intriguing series. [Link]
SM readers, let me be blunt. Anjay is the best chance we currently have to demonstrate to the American public how utopian our society might become if super smart desi people were in charge of everything. The governor’s mansion in Louisiana just won’t cut it. More people will tune in to Kid Nation than will pay attention to Louisiana. The question on all our minds is, “will a group of young children between ages 8-15 allow a kid (that reminds us a lot of ourselves at 12) lead the way when left on their own?” Just look at Anjay’s answers to some questions CBS posed. I dare anyone to find more concise and honest answers in any recent Presidential debate:
Who have been some of the best U.S. presidents, and why?
George Washington - he managed to lead a young nation, and headed the conventions to develop the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution. Abraham Lincoln - he abolished slavery, and led the nation through the Civil War. Franklin D. Roosevelt - he established the New Deal which got the economy working during the Great Depression and instilled confidence in citizens during his fireside chats.Who have been some of the worst U.S. presidents, and why?
The US president that comes to mind, due to recent events, is George W. Bush, because I don’t agree with the way he is handling the Iraq war. [Link]
Also, is Anjay Libertarian? And does he know more about government than Fred Thompson?
If you had the power to change one or two things about our country right now, what would it be?
I would create a law that eliminates all budget earmarks - useless bits of spending. If earmarks are eliminated, approximately 78% of the US budget will be freed up to be utilized in areas where there is a more urgent need, such as the national deficit. I would also eliminate paid lobbying in an effort to give all parties involved in a dispute an equal voice. [Link]
Holy crap. 78%? Draft Anjay (or the parents that helped him write this stuff).
This was by far my favorite line. He isn’t just all brains. He’s got a bit of mountain man in him too. Anjay tries to explain that sometimes the camera crew got in his way and pissed him off:
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I didn’t like if they got too close and started interrupting us when we’re doing something important. Like I’m building a fire and my hands are in the fire, so I’m like, ”Get lost! I don’t want to burn myself here!”… [Link]
Grrrrrr. Fire. I must admit that I’m a bit apprehensive about watching Kid Nation in that I have no idea how it will all turn out. What if Anjay ends up falling into the roll of Piggy? I’d much rather he be a warrior-poet like Simon.
To understand Kid Nation, picture summer camp. In the Old West. With campers doing all the chores. As a group, they were told to make a society that works. Unlike LOTF the show doesn’t kill anyone off. And you didn’t need a conch to be able to speak. What they needed to do instead was hold council meetings, compete in showdowns, and try to win $20,000 each episode — in the form of a star made of real gold. [Link]
Is it horrible of me to suggest that the show might have wider dramatic appeal if someone got killed off?
What is your favorite quote?
There are three things which if one does not know; one cannot live long in the world: what is too much for one, what is too little for one, and what is just right for one - Swahili Proverb. [Link]
Are you KIDDING me? Swahili? Who is this kid? I predict the girls in Kid Nation will be on his jock.
abhi on September 6, 2007 10:29 PM in Humor, Kids, TV · T·r·a·c·k·b·a·c·k address · Direct link · Email post
I know, when I read his bio on the CBS website, I thought I was too negative about kids and the lines they are speaking. But this post here sounds just like what I thought: who is this kid! and whats with 78%!
this kid will make kid nation a nuclear power within the first 35 minutes of the show.
wow
Perhaps, but does he have what it takes to tackle global warming??
Never mind.
Is it wrong that the moment I heard about this show, I started imagining something that ended up being a cross between that episode of the Simpsons where all the kids end up licking lichens off rocks for survival and Battle Royale?
No..its the funniest thing I heard all day :-))
That's exactly what I thought of! Perhaps Anjay will be a brown Martin Prince?
As smart as this boy (or his parents) may be, anyone familiar with preteen television programming, specifically "Endurance" (think "Legends of the Hidden Temple" meets "Survivor") on the Discovery Kids channel, KNOWS that pure intelligence and capability don't usually win out. It's whoever is the "coolest", funniest, (whitest), and basically most socially manipulative that shapes the group dynamic and becomes top dog. Hopefully, if Anjay can't become their first president, he can becomes its first revolutionary and overthrow his pimply-faced oppressors.
Isn't this Kid Nation show just going to be a live action Lord of the Flies?
I personally think the Indian kid will be the one killed, er, I mean, kicked off first, and I predict, like the adults, the kids of Kids Nation will only tolerate 30 second sound bites using monosyllable words and will probably choose the kid digging for gold behind the outhouse as their leader...perhaps I'm too pessimistic. BTW, speaking of Louisiana, did anyone else notice that this kid bears a striking resemblance to Jindal? That picture of Anjay could totally be Jindal's 5th grade mugshot!
is Anjay Libertarian?
Don/t libertarians consider Abe Lincoln to be one of the worst presidents? Mainly for having a civil war to abolish slavery which could have been abolished like many other parts of the world without going to war.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents#Liberal_and_conservative_raters
Did you read the hoops + hurdles the parents went through to get their kids on tv? The waiver included a laundry list of injuries, accidents, oversights, and-- for good measure-- STDs. Basically, CBS takes the kids, puts them on TV, and the parents just have to pray nothing bad happens.
I've also heard that the cameras will be rolling on any and all material, except for when the child is showering, doing #1, or doing #2.
But hey, whatever it takes to get your kid on TV, right?
taz:
hence the title of the post...
Ok, not that I admit watching it, but I'm having 'Beauty and the Geek' flashbacks! Overly intelligent Indian kid trying to cope painfully in an American society that values hollow and casual relationships. Basically what I'm saying is, dear god please don't let him be piggy!!
Also, weren't this kid's questions a little TOO good? I mean, could my parents help me write why FDR was one of the best presidents? Unlikely! It's a gift and a curse, I suppose....
Kid looks too goofy to be on TV. They should have chosen a cool Indian instead of a smart one.
I'm not quite sure what the point of the star is.. Also, it seems that the more the show interferes with the society (star, competitions, etc), the less valid or interesting the "experiment" is. Then again, it is a reality show.
This show seems like a stupid concept to me. There is no way that I would ever watch something like this. Also I hope they don't show the kids getting into boyfriend/girlfriend relationships (which is something that happens in most reality shows) with the opposite sexes because it would be too weird to watch.
"...pure intelligence and capability don't usually win out. It's whoever is the "coolest", funniest, (whitest), and basically most socially manipulative that shapes the group dynamic and becomes top dog."
wow... that's a large aspect of North American pubescent/adolescent culture...wait I think you also forgot to mention the token, light skin black guy named Tyrone/Tyrome who posses excellent athletic abilities who can also be top dawg but is generally viewed as being substandard to the (whitest) "cool" kid. Is there a "Tyrone/Tyrome" on the show who will also speak a touch of exaggerated urban black vernacular?
Super Desi Kid: "I believe we should adhere to a Keynesian welfare state."
Token Light Skin Black Tyrone/Tyrome: "That's wiggidy wack dawg, let Cool, Lead, White Boy be tha shot caller baller ya dig????"
Attractive Looking White Girl: "Ha ha ha ha... Oh Tyrone/Tyrome, you are so right! And I thought black people didn't have an education."
Cool, Lead, White Boy: "Your right Tyrone/Tyrome, forget Apu over there, also since I am more socially attractive (as I am a handsome, white, male, heterosexual, middle to upper-class, able body and highly manipulative) I should call all the shots and win this game show, agreed?
Attractive Looking White Girl: "AGREED!"
Token Light Skin Black Tyrone/Tyrome: "YEA DAWG."
Super Desi Kid: "I've become peripheral once again...ain't this a muhfuka!"
Sorry... I think I let my high school memories get the best of me
Would you be more comfortable if the kids were shown getting into a relationship with the same sex?
I wish I had thought of it. $$$$$
My views are probably tainted from my recent experiences in running a convenience store in Southern Georgia. I think the desi kid will NOT be accepted as a leader by White kids solely cuz of his brown-ness/lack-of-coolness/arab-ness and whatever other negative stuff that White people teach their kids about brown folks...I predict the Black kids will like to have him as ONE of the leaders as long as he doesn't sound dorky/nerdy and they will still have another Black kid to balance him out.
Is Swahili the new Old Chinese? Can one just say any old crap like "Man who put head to railway track get splitting headache" and pass it off as a Swahili proverb?
I too pray he doesn't become Piggy. I was at a corporate "group dynamics" session that lasted three hours. But within 3 minutes it became "find the tallest white man and make him leader". The dude then delegates the task of coming up with ideas for the problem (building a catapult) to the Indians and Chinese and sorta sits in judgement over each of the ideas. Finally, the shorter white men join the Asians in putting together the device. I don't know what would have been the black guy's or the woman's role if there had been one.
thats f-cking miserable. height and paleness dont count as leadership qualitites...
Firstly, who dares malign sendhil!!! The whole "Indianness" in that movie is so hokey and pokey, that his accent shouldn't be a factor ;-P
And I luuuuurve his accent.
If Anjay answered those with no one else's brain behind it, then kudos and draft him, I say.
If not, we witness yet another parent pushed desi kid.
at #18: "that's a large aspect of North American pubescent/adolescent culture" - I wouldn't restrict that to the tweens and teens alone. Or 8 years back, Gore would have won.
Why do they always find the most socially awkward, pretentious, my-parents-still-cut-my-hair-with-a-bowl little brown nerds? This only serves to strengthen the belief that there are no average, well-adjusted brown kids in America. I really hope this kid gets kicked off early, I really do. If not for his sake, then to spite his parents. brown bhang, I sympathize completely.
why would you want to be average. the average person cant think straight, is ugly and has mediocre prospects.
c'mon, i think he's cute! and really, how many of us were well-adjusted at the age of 12?
i just wonder why his parents wanted him on the show? i wonder why any parent would, actually. (is there a cash prize for the winner, or whoever?) but i wonder if this is his parents' way of getting an early leg up in college admissions or something. 'I was a pubescent reality tv star'
look at my beta! he is on tee-vee!!!!
How do people surmise that the kid is "socially awkward" or a dweeb? Is it based on his his responses? His looks? Is it just a projection of one's own insecurities?
i think he will make lots of money doing the drycleaning..
a little from colomn a, a little from colomn b, a little form colomn c (i think).
1.) the smart articulate kid is never "cool"
2.) look at him. hes not the dashing football player that nabs the cheerleaders. hes the geek that wins the science fair.
3.) a lot of abd's were in this boat in childhood.
Ugh. This is the kind of kid I would have HATED while growing up purely based on his answer to the favorite quote. Well ... based on all his answers, really. But that Swahili thing just really did it for me.
I'm against the whole smartass-12-year-old movement. I know I should be the bigger person here and think, 'Oh isn't it swell that Anjay can expand on his political and historical opinions at such a young age' or 'Children are the future'. You would think, but nah, not so much.
Yeahhh, best of luck, kid.
There are three things which if one does not know; one cannot live long in the world: what is too much for one, what is too little for one, and what is just right for one - Goldilocks
y'all, look at them! only three or four of the older ones (the age range is from 8 to 15, which is just bizarre to me) look 'cool' to me by any standard. and there's some nice diversity-- TWO whole other Asian kids!! THREE Asian-Americans on ONE TV show?! We're actually overrepresented on this one!
"If you had the power to change one or two things about our country right now, what would it be?
I would create a law that eliminates all budget earmarks - useless bits of spending. If earmarks are eliminated, approximately 78% of the US budget will be freed up to be utilized in areas where there is a more urgent need, such as the national deficit. I would also eliminate paid lobbying in an effort to give all parties involved in a dispute an equal voice. [Link]"
don't children just climb trees and fall out of them for fun anymore?
the other kids will be like that. they will run this kid over.
brown bhang @18: Liked your post!
But.. does the Super Desi Kid suddenly get street slang!? Wouldn't he say something like "I think this whole Leadership Dynamics Simulation Experience encapsulates and exemplifies a base form of the resurgent Social Darwinistic atavism once common on the African savannah amongst humankind's earliest ancestors, and must be rejected as a model for Leadership choice in modern American society." :)
12 year olds is not too young to talk smart about politics. I followed the freaking presidential race between Carter and Ford on TV when I could barely read newspapers. (OK, so I am dating myself here). By the time I was 12, I was active reader on American and Indian politics. Sometimes, I wonder if I was smarter as a kid than I am now. I certainly read a lot of books back then.
As long as this kid doesn't turn into a miniPradeep( VH1's Pickup Artist viewers will know who I am talking about), I think he will be fine. There is a danger he could be like Surya on Apprentice if he is not good with his social skills. Has there been an Indian on Real World yet? I stopped watching it years ago, but I will catch one of those Real World Road Rules challenges occasionally which will pretty much give you a sampling of many seasons and I never see an INdian on there.
12 year old kids are not too young to talk about politics intelligently. unfortunately, that will get you run over on this type of show. the big dumb white kid whose idea as to how to run this town is that they should eat all their supplies in 1 day and play all the time will run over this kid.
Maybe I am getting to age where I can't tell who's cool and who's not, but looking through the photos and reading interviews of the entire cast, I can't pick who are the alpha jocks and queen bees. They all look like run-of-the-mill adolescent kids. (Though some kids do sound smarter than the others.) But no one seems especially geeky or especially cool, they are just little kids to me. And, of course, qualities like charm and charisma don't come through from what little we know of them.
I guess I'll adopt a wait-and-see approach before I make a judgment.
The American budget is not even close to being 78% Earmarks. I'm afraid he's very inaccurate. Earmarks are a portion (and only a portion) of general domestic spending.
Anyone else excitedly anticipating a "Lord of the Flies" throwdown?
I wrote:
Okay I totally wrote that without reading the rest of Abhi's post and his homage to Piggy. Mom always said to read all the directions first.
John wrote:
Tell that 12-year old who's boss!"There were no words, and no movements but the tearing of ... earmarks and badly-balanced budgets." Golding chuckles from his grave.
Wonder if Anjay's folks were part of the lawsuit that accused CBS of violating child labor laws.
#23 and #24,
There is a huge premium on height in corporate America, about 58% of fortune 500 CEOS are about 6 feet tall and almost 30% are 6 feet two inches.
yup. im not disputing that. i just think its f-cking miserable.
#48,
True, not only do you have to be white, you also have to be 6 feet tall.
thats why i plan to make my first $5m by my 40th birthday, and never work again. i hate this miserable $hit.
It's possible to be smart and wry...some of the kids on Spellbound were. I find that a lot of Indian parents just raise their kids to be deadly earnest and not see the fun side in life. This is madly depressing.
I wonder if Anjay reads SM.... ooohhh....
does the mutiny hold any interst for kids that young? any young mutineers in da house?
Puliogre in da USA on September 7, 2007 12:45 PM ยท Direct link
thats why i plan to make my first $5m by my 40th birthday, and never work again. i hate this miserable $hit.
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Puli,
I will give you the extra 1 inch of my height(at 6'1) if you give me $1M out of that $5M.
We can work out the details when you have the cash ready.
I think smart kids are cool..and i bet as adults most of the time we feel we know everything until we are proven otherwise by kids like Anjay..(Mostly its them reminding us of things we have forgotten :-p)Good Luck to him...
Oh by the way ive read somewhere that 78% of the statistics are made on the spot ;-)
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3 inches cost $100,000. I was thinking of getting that leg lengthening surgery done.
I, too, have no idea why someone would want their kid on this show. When I was little I dreamed of being on either Star Search or Jeopardy! (I had no talent, making Star Search an impossibility, but I also had no idea of how to get on Jeopardy and alas have not fulfilled either dream).
Puli, at this rate your $5m may not be much after inflation and PPP adjustment :(no matter how you adjust that, that is more money than most people would be able to pull down in such a short period of time. just a little more than a decade. not a lightweight goal.
3 inches cost $100,000. I was thinking of getting that leg lengthening surgery done.
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Have you ever considered wearing heels ? They cost a fraction
"he puts on womens clothing, and hangs around in bars"
dnot think i could pull that off. and besides, grls dig the tall guy, not the short guy in heels.
i would pay good money to watch this geeky little brown kid sucessfully hit on all the little grls on the show,while all the other kids stand around looking slack jawed.
there is an old swahili proverb. 'making up old swahili proverbs is a great way to look smart.'
Kid should have used one of those old jungle sayings from Phantom, now that would have been more credible..
The Federal budget is made up of mandatory and discretionary items. Social Security, etc. are considered mandatory items. Discretionary items need to be voted on each year, and include the so-called earmarks. I would be surprised if 78% of the Federal budget is even discretionary, nowadays. So, the point about earmarks is flat-out wrong. Maybe the admiration for this kid has something to do with how we all perceive anti-Bush remarks.
Can anyone tell me what Desi parents would let their kid out alone on this so called "reality" show?
loook at my beta! he is on tee vee!
That indian kid from the superreligious christian family on Spellbound. Forget his name. But man, it would have been nice if his parents spent more time on his speaking ability than his spelling.
And the kid who didn't have a clue as to the origin of Darjeeling - it's funny how his parents hired all these tutors teaching him foreign origins of words, but he nearly misses on an Indian word.
The Indian kids on Spellbound didn't seem as joyful as some of the other kids.
New swahili proverb - "White that messes with brown, soon become black and blue"
attention whores.
those that think it would add to this kids resume to get into harvard.
or get them a fat check in the end.
my 2 cents.
felt sorry for that kid. my favorite was the mexican girl who had illegal parents, or the black girl from the hood who's mother didn't know what a bee was.
I have a theory that humans are genetically programmed to select tall white males as leaders. The reason is that during a mammoth hunt in paleo times only the tall guy could knock a mammoth out cold with a smack on its head. But why white? Its simple, the mammoths could not spot the white guys: it was the ice ages remember? Or maybe it was because of the pink tits, which girls of course like, because they look like berries.
just want to echo the attention whores indictment of his parents.
I'm not gonna rip on the kid cause he's 12 for goodness sake. My advice to him is to enjoy himself.
As for the interview, its obviously his parents writing it. Though if he truly would choose the head of national board of ed to switch places with that's kind of sad. When I was 12, I'd probably say Justin Timberlake or Derek Jeter for obvious reasons. And he sees himself in 10 yrs at MIT and hopes to be a neurological surgeon!
Then again his answer that 'Art and math class teach you equally important but different ideas so they should receive the same funding and attention.' and favorite color of dark red still leave some hope that'll maybe he'll end up a gay, indian actor or something and strike a blow against the stereotypical shaadi.com/ivy league indian kid.
damn you SM...now i'm going through the wierd questions they asked these little ones---hows this awesome reply by mike:
Why are some people rich and others poor?
Some people a) work hard b) are lucky and others c) are bums or d) unfortunate.
ok. jimmy is my favorite:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/kid_nation/bios/jimmy/index.shtml
Who have been some of the worst U.S. presidents, and why?
No one was really bad some just got caught doing bad things.
When you become an adult, what do you think will be the biggest problem facing our nation and/or world?
Alien Attack! Or more species of animals will become extinct.
If you had the power to change one or two things about our country right now, what would it be?
No wars! Only in games!
This kid seems a bit pedantic - or at least his parents do. They definitely answered those questions for him.
Great ideas only work if people like you enough to listen to them. I hope he can make friends.
Oops! I didn't think of that. ;)
Yep, I meant nipples. Thanks for catching that. Their ancestors must have been berry gatherers. ;)
btw, that comment was tongue in cheek, in case it was not clear. :)
I really would never repeat this fantastical "theory" of yours in public. :)
Well, its only slightly more fantastical than some of the stuff based on evol. psychology I've read in the papers recently, like the one I linked in #71.
Still it was OT, I apologize for that.
#47-50,
I never thought being tall was such a big deal... (While being tall might have a few undesirable elements to it, I guess its very easy to lose a perspective on the value of something when you have a good amount of it.)
Just to be clear, #71 was meant to be satirical.
Its so hard to convey tone on the net.
#71
I wholeheartedly agree with your theory.
However, a Scythian would just look at the mammoth and the it would knock itself out to avoid the pain. This was a mistake as we Scythians hate wussies, we took them off our list of creatures we allow to live.
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Anyways tall guys do make better leaders because if short guys aren't ambitious they are wussies, when they are ambitious they have a Napoleon complex. On the other hand tall guys can either be gentle hearted giants or Type As depending on how ambitious or laid back my personality is.
Yup. I didn't think otherwise. :)
You mean...the theory...which #71 said was a joke, in part to ward off brilliant responses like this:
How fortunate that you're tall, since I doubt that women (or men) would be attracted to that stunning intellect.
i think he was kidding too. that guy always posts messed up comments in jest. (at least i hope he does).
i feel so inadequate. :P
good thing you're outnumbered mobsoflemurians--1 scythian on this blog.
but, although this shouldn't be a cause for alarm, I WILL RAISE THE SCYTHIAN ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALL LEMURIANS TO BATTLE STATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SMITE ON SIGHT!!!
scythian bro,
I know someone who doesnt date anyone strictly more than 6-4. So, the fact is that I know people who consider you as a short guy. And since height is the best feature you have in any case, you are absolutely wortheless when you fail in that department.
-your 6-4.5 non scythian friend :)
*unless they are* missing above :D
SIR! REPORTING FOR ANTI-SCYTHIAN DUTIES, SIR!
Well I watch this show. And I am relieved that Anjay is not one of the annoying kids on the show. Actually, he is just there. Very little presence. But I guess that's better than being this annoying little child beauty queen (yeah, you guessed it, she is from the South) named Taylor who is the Bad Seed and makes all other kids seem like little angels.
There was this segment on religion. Anjay was the only Hindu in the camp(how the casting directors could not find a single Muslim or Mormon to include in such a huge cast is beyond me). So they show Anjay praying to Durga sitting on a tiger. A few girls stare in part amusement and part curiosity, including a curious Christian Korean girl(she could be Chinese, but for some reason I tend to associate religious Asian American Christians with Korean Americans). This is where I wonder if there was some producer help. Anjay starts reciting Hindu mantras. Either he is from a pretty religious family, or he has an excellent memory. I wonder if the producers asked his parents for some mantras and gave them to Anjay to recite.
So then the girls come to Anjay and ask giggly and good naturedly what Hinduism is and how many gods he prays to. Anjay, to his credit, is not defensive, and calmly explains that there are a lot of Gods, and blah blah. The next shot is pretty amusing as they show the Korean girl do her version of Indian prayers and she seemed to get a kick out of it. I hope her church people won't start fainting at that scene because of her idol worship. (it was funny to see a grown Christian radio host get bent out of shape in Survivor China when they had to be in a Buddhist chamber where prayers were offered , but it was clearly explained that it was not religious and not meant to claim allegiance from other faiths).
I was also pleased that there were a couple of athiests among the kids who had no problem expressing their views.
I could have been wrong on the muslim thing. But there is supposedly one on the show. FWIW, no time was spent on a muslim prayer as was spent on other religions.
Full episodes are available on the CBS website.