November 28, 2007
The first desi in the Oval Office?Profiles
Relax, this post has nothing to do with Bobby Jindal. Banish the thought and just bear with me for a moment. Last week, after one of the candidates I was eyeing as the potential recipient of my vote made a monumental policy blunder (which made me question everything about this candidate), I started giving a closer look to another candidate who had more sensible and educated things to say on the same issue. And that is when I decided that it was finally time (after months of my teenage-like infatuation where I contemplated the perfect post that might get her to take notice of me) to write about an awesome potential development that would take place IF Hillary Clinton goes on to win the White House. I’m talking about that goddess beautiful and capable assistant of hers, Huma Abedin. Huma currently serves as Clinton’s “body man,” similar to the character of Charlie on the show The West Wing. If she doesn’t go on to become the Chief of Staff, she would certainly remain one of Clinton’s closest advisors, with daily access to the Oval Office. From an article I first read in April:
Last June, under an oppressive sun, at a rally to save the Niagara military base at the University of Buffalo, all of New York’s top politicians—George Pataki, Chuck Schumer, Hillary Clinton—poured sweat.
Yet there was exactly one member of the wilting delegation who managed, somehow, to stay cool: Hillary Clinton’s mysterious, glamorous and eerily unflappable aide de camp, Huma Abedin.
“It was like 110 degrees outside,” recalled the source, a political aide who asked to remain anonymous. “We were all just pouring down with sweat. But I have this distinct memory of Huma traipsing in in this blue pantsuit—it was like this wool pantsuit—not a bead of sweat on her brow, not a hair out of place, with everything perfectly organized in her Yves Saint Laurent handbag.”
That sort of fantastical, supernaturally tinged tale is not unusual. Indeed, in the insular world of New York and D.C. politics, Huma Abedin has become a sort of mythical figure. [Link]
Huma was born in Michigan to an Indian father and a Pakistani mother. She interned at the White House in the mid-90s and graduated from GW. If she goes on to become Chief of Staff it is entirely possible that she could broker a lasting peace in South Asia by helping to end the Kashmiri conflict. I’m just saying, if I was at the negotiation table I’d commit to any concession she proposed. Let’s give peace a chance.
“I think she has special powers,” said public-radio broadcaster Katia Dunn, who recently crossed paths with Ms. Abedin and Mrs. Clinton at a café on Capitol Hill.
Ms. Dunn explained that she had heard about the “cult of Huma,” but had never met her. “All of a sudden, I turn around and there was this woman I now know to be Huma. And it wasn’t just that she was gorgeous—she did just sort of have this presence. She stopped me in my tracks for a second…” [Link]
For those of you who think that the “special powers” quote above is an exaggeration, check out this clip. She is as agile as a secret service agent in protecting Ms. Clinton from the attacking flags (apparently Clinton forgot to wear a flag pin on her lapel and the flags in the audience were really pissed). At the end of clip you can see her calming down some of the flags:
“This might seem too over-saccharine, but I love Huma,” said Oscar de la Renta, who is a personal friend and intensely loyal supporter of the Clintons. The legendary designer was speaking to The Observer on the phone from his compound in the Dominican Republic. He has known her for nearly a decade. Indeed, he noted, Ms. Abedin has actually been a guest at his island home. He described her as “discreet,” “loyal,” “beautiful” and “half-Pakistani.”
“She is an unbelievably feminine and gentle person, but at the same time she can accomplish so much,” offered Mr. de la Renta. He recalled that she had great style, but hastened to point out that “she’s a Muslim” and “she’s very conservative.”
“I always say I don’t want to die without seeing [Huma] in a strapless dress,” he said, with a laugh. But did the dapper dressmaker know, say, where his dream girl grew up?… [Link]
I never thought I’d have so much in common with Oscar de la Renta. Who knew? There are rumors that she once dated John Cusack for a while. That is not conservative. But honey, didn’t you watch High Fidelity? That bum is a commitment-phobe and it was always going to lead to a failed relationship. I’m not like that. I also love politics and believe in government service so we’d have a lot to talk about.
Now, as for the other rumors, I find them just disgusting. It is a combination of misogyny and racism that motivates the spreading of innuendo that Clinton is having a lesbian affair with her Muslim aide. It is dirty politics at its absolute worst (even worse than what happened to McCain in 2000). Some segment of our society (in both parties) just can’t accept one strong woman working with another without feeling threatened by it.
I’d like to conclude this post with what I predict would be some notable developments should Clinton win the Presidency and Huma accompany her to the White House:
1) Secret Service budget would be increased exponentially as it would need to staff up because of all the brown men that would suddenly become interested in seeing Clinton speak at events.
2) Peace between India and Pakistan. How could two nations that combined to form a Huma keep fighting?
3) Raghubir “the foil” Goyal would ask the White House Press Secretary, “ummm. so, how’s Huma? Did she say anything about me?” at every press briefing.
4) The Saudis would lower oil prices (Huma grew up there and could probably place a call to make it happen)
5) USINPAC would suddenly become Islamaphilic.
6) Huma action figures by Kridana.com
7) SM blogger Abhi would quit SM to run Huma fan club website
8) Secret Service would investigate Abhi…again.
abhi on November 28, 2007 12:00 AM in Humor, Profiles · T·r·a·c·k·b·a·c·k address · Direct link · Email post
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i was waiting for news of her to show up here... let's hear it for smart, beautiful desi women. though i am somewhat mystified by the intersection between politics, high fashion, and hollywood.
definitely not bill's type
Abhi-
Surely you jest about her being able to end the Kashmir conflict. It seems quite intractable, no?
Now, as for the other rumors, I find them just disgusting.
What!? Does this mean she didn't kill Vince Foster?
Abhi- Surely you jest about her being able to end the Kashmir conflict. It seems quite intractable, no?
I never jest about two things: space or a beautiful woman. :)
I vaguely remember Mario's "Vote for Cuomo, not the h--o" against Koch. Lucky for Abe, Mario was born too late. Poor Ed had to fake an affair with Bess Meyerson.
is a combination of misogyny and racism that motivates the spreading of innuendo that Clinton is having a lesbian affair with her Muslim aide.Does Bill just watch or does he get involved as well.
Maybe she can remind Hillary that Gandhi isn't just a guy who "ran a gas station down in St. Louis"...that he had a real DIY fashion sense and made his own dhotis to boot
Abhi,
I am happy to see that Obama has taken the libertarian turn of wanting to cut down on taxpayer funding of (non-miliatary-related) NASA projects, in order to let the private sector in, to the extent that such projects make sense at all. That said, I can hardly fault you for your Huma obsession. ;-)
She is pretty fucking hot.
Great hair!
I was looking through the blogosphere re: her--there is a fair amount of attention being brought to the claim (I have no idea as to its accuracy, and am not familiar with the links I was scanning) that she seems to be spending a lot of $$, despite being the child of two professors and earning a "clerical" (according to one blog) salary--with attendant innuendo about where the $$ is coming from. I suspect we will be hearing a lot more about this in 2008, from Obama and/or the GOP.
Clinton is not my choice in this election (i'm for Obama), but I don't think these rumors will hurt her. There has always been unfounded rhetoric about her, well before the emergence of Huma.
I suspect we will be hearing a lot more about this in 2008, from Obama and/or the GOP.
From a rejuvenated Turd Blossom on behalf of the GOP maybe, but I don't see anyone on Obama's staff doing anything that low.
humba humba
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WTF?
I guess, quoting one blog citing another blog about an anonymous rumor makes it a definite "I didn't make it up, I read it in somebody else's blog, who said somebody else told me it is true category".
Please everyone, if you are going to leave a comment about Huma, make it more interesting than "she is hot." Such comments are the equivalent of finishing The Catcher in the Rye and saying, "man write good." Show some depth please . I will ask my monkeys to cull all the idiot comments at the end of the day.
I was looking through the blogosphere re: her--there is a fair amount of attention being brought to the claim (I have no idea as to its accuracy, and am not familiar with the links I was scanning) that she seems to be spending a lot of $$, despite being the child of two professors and earning a "clerical" (according to one blog) salary--with attendant innuendo about where the $$ is coming from.
Yes, shes a spy for the terrorists. So what other scoops are being uncovered at LGF?
Please everyone, if you are going to leave a comment about Huma, make it more interesting than "she is hot."
I find it interesting though, that politics has gone the hollywood image route. She could have cured hunger, created world peace, and solved every other global problem in the book, but the minute vogue magazine pictures her like above, all that is figuratively speaking, out the window.
No conflict. Man write good, girl pretty. All problems solved.
Ok but seriously, why does growing the space program make sense when we have overcrowded schools rotting in our cities? I'll be right with you if anyone talks about cutting NASA, but reducing its scope and transferring the savings to our school system doesn't seem "uneducated" to me.
all that is figuratively speaking, out the window.
It could even be out the window she's staring through in the vogue pic.
Abhi:
I can understand your frustration at the "she's hot" comments but posting a Vogue picture doesn't really help, don't you think? It's all downhill from there.
I hope you were only half-serious about switching the Obama vote based on one issue. That is almost as bad as the one-issue pro-lifers.
Go Obama!
Intersection between sexiness and politics/publicFigures doesn't occur, normally, except when it involves a minority. It seems that one of the first things I've noticed about South Asian public figures in the West was how sexy they are. I'm not saying that *every* desi is considered sexy, but it's just that a higher proportion of them tend to be sexy, as if this is an added requirement for a South Asian to have.
1. Why is Dr.Sanjay Gupta considered sexy, but nobody regards Dr. Lisa Schnydermann(sp?) as being sexy?
2. Why is this Huma Abedin considered sexy, "exotic white man's forbidden fruit", when no other intern is considered this way?
3. Why does Daljit Dalhiwal have to be sexy but not, let's say, Katie Couric?
4. I've noticed a lot of other South Asian news reporters in my area, and they're quite sexy, like what you'd expect from the Fox News females (nee the blonde hair).
Love the dress. Have no intelligent comments to make as US election doesn't really concern me directly, and I'm not up to date with the details.
Please everyone, if you are going to leave a comment about Huma, make it more interesting than "she is hot." Such comments are the equivalent of finishing The Catcher in the Rye and saying, "man write good." Show some depth please . I will ask my monkeys to cull all the idiot comments at the end of the day.
Man find Desi Uberchick; Tribe emit Mega Applause!
Abhi, the Constellation Program ain't everything. Let's hear what Obama and his people have in mind overall for fully fledged space and NASA policies before we go rushing into Ms. Clinton's camp because of Huma, and expect Huma to fix or eradicate the LOC. I suspect Ms. Clinton is just waffling by throwing out shadow soundbites about how wonderful the Constellation program is, considering it has stalled. After all, Hillary 's clearly on the way to keeping the Iraq war going on and on, which will make make progress in space exploration impossible anyway. Plus. don't you think developing solar energy first is more expedient than getting to Mars?
You are forgetting the Battlestar Galactica parallels (the space connection). Tory Foster / President Roslin : Huma Abedin / President H. Clinton.
Amrita @ 26: Plus. don't you think developing solar energy first is more expedient than getting to Mars?
I am no rocket scientist but ask Abhi and he will explain to you that MARS (our next door neighbor)can be used to ship some "Elements" (read folks) and ease the pain of ever increasing demands of Energy on the Blue Planet by Terraforming MARS using SRS technique. I am just saying.
Terraforming MARS using SRS technique
Abhi, please explain.
Intersection between sexiness and politics/publicFigures doesn't occur, normally, except when it involves a minority.Nonsense.
The monkeys woke me up because of this thread. That means I'm moderating while grumpy. Take cover.
1) comments which use homophobic slurs add nothing to this discussion
2) comments which are content-free add nothing to the discussion
3) Abhi isn't available during the day, so if you pose questions to him, expect responses after COB
Thank you.
You could be my intern
And in turn
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In the winter
Kind of looks like Amy Winehouse without the tattoos and makeup.
Is this the same Huma Abedin that once upon dated Aditya Mittal and Devesh Poddar ?
Two Marwari Industrialists from the desert state of Rajasthan, India...
Kind of looks like Amy Winehouse without the tattoos and makeup.
that's an insult.
For those of you who think that the “special powers” quote above is an exaggeration, check out this clip. She is as agile as a secret service agent in protecting Ms. Clinton from the attacking flags (apparently Clinton forgot to wear a flag pin on her lapel and the flags in the audience were really pissed). At the end of clip you can see her calming down some of the flags:
think perhaps she's toting around the GIGANTIC bag to provide balance for the Desert Eagle .50 she's most likely packing on the right hip? ;)
Huma was born in Michigan to an Indian father and a Pakistani mother. She interned at the White House in the mid-90s and graduated from GW. If she goes on to become Chief of Staff it is entirely possible that she could broker a lasting peace in South Asia by helping to end the Kashmiri conflict. I’m just saying, if I was at the negotiation table I’d commit to any concession she proposed. Let’s give peace a chance.
She will be some sort of big-baller if Hillary wins. Given the current white house structure, where the current administration made it clear you could circumvent the normal channels of intelligence gathering by making up your own "So Much, like, Better than the CIA" Office of Special Intelligence(s), I'm sure Hillary could place Abedin in any number of yet-to-be-created, powerful white-house posts if a traditional one doesn't fall into place.
Nonsense.
Who are those people?
Either way, I think the point is that because vogue went the extra mile to focus on her sexual attraction in that particular picture, it drowns out any of her achievements (sadly) in the political sphere.
I'm not saying she shouldn't be presentable, or gain 75 lbs to be taken seriously in the political sphere, but give me a break, that picture looks like she could be selling calvin klein or chanel perfume.
Either way, I think the point is that because vogue went the extra mile to focus on her sexual attraction in that particular picture, it drowns out any of her achievements (sadly) in the political sphere.
I'm not saying she shouldn't be presentable, or gain 75 lbs to be taken seriously in the political sphere, but give me a break, that picture looks like she could be selling calvin klein or chanel perfume.
I think that's why Hill. said no to a second appearance in Vogue.
Who are those people?Dennis and Elizabeth Kucinich. Elizabeth is commonly referred to as "his hot young wife." Which she is.
I thought the guy was Dennis, but didn't know for sure. But what exactly about the wife is being ignored or downplayed?, plus her non-looks related talents could be downplayed given that she's with Dennis Kucinich, that is, your example isn't a strict counterexample to the original claim.
Dennis and Elizabeth Kucinich. Elizabeth is commonly referred to as "his hot young wife." Which she is.
Her only prior work experience seems to be with these policy wonks
She did, however, do volunteer work in Africa and India which would qualify her for a "Bono/M. Teresa's Burden" award at the next live aid.
Despite all the nauseating new-age vocabulary she uses to describe her romance with Dennis, she does have some work experience and a masters--which is certainly enough, in the way of success, to downplay.
I’d like to conclude this post with what I predict would be some notable developments should Clinton win the Presidency and Huma accompany her to the White House:
#9 : Jaswant Singh will send flowers to Huma.
The original claim was:
Intersection between sexiness and politics/publicFigures doesn't occur, normally, except when it involves a minority.
I'd say there's no more literal an instersection between sexiness and a politics/a Public Figure than Elizabeth and Dennis Kucinich.
You could say tall thin hot English vegetarian redheads are a minority, of course.
anyway, even i will admit it'll be good to have a desi with daily access to the oval orifice.
I'd say there's no more literal an instersection between sexiness and a politics/a Public Figure than Elizabeth and Dennis Kucinich.
I think the "intersection" described in the claim was internal to a single person. That is, "here's a sexy new minority person, and oh hey, he/she's done some of that politics crap too".
what in the world are you guys arguing about? beautiful people get more attention. in every culture. we're all the same. deal with it.
Either way, I think the point is that because vogue went the extra mile to focus on her sexual attraction in that particular picture, it drowns out any of her achievements (sadly) in the political sphere.
I agree. It seems that her achievments would have been better served being represented in a news magazine, such as the Times or even CNN. I think it is great to see strong South Asian women rising in the ranks. However, I agree that it is unfortunate that the first glimpse we get of her is focused more on her appearance than her political achievements. Would this be marketed the same way if she were a male desi in politics? I don't see any glamorous pictures of Bobby Jindal anywhere...
The Kucinich example is an example of "sexiness + public figures" who aren't "minorities."
political achievements? isn't she a butler?
Re: 46:
... and that's why I should hit "refresh" before posting. ^__^
I think that's why Hill. said no to a second appearance in Vogue.
Huh, the Hillary gets to appear in Vogue as much as she likes and Huma just that once?
Doesn't bode well. Huma should go where she can have all the giant croc bags she wants.
Am I the only one who thinks that mahesh is right? I mean she is good-looking, but she's not Lara Dutta or anything. Why the undue focus on her looks?
In response to Nina, yes Jeri Thompson and Kucinich attract attention for their looks, but neither is running for office or holding a political position. They are the candidates spouses, who are traditionally viewed differently than the candidates themselves. If people start doing glamorous photo shoots on Kucinich's hot white press secretary, you would have a point.
Finally, I live in DC and most of the people I know live on the Hill. It is pretty widely assumed that Hillary does in fact embrace the love that dare not speak its name. Just like you can spot a certain married, elderly Senator at Cafe Milano every other weekend with a new 25 year old Hill staffer. These things happen, they don't have much to do with the issues, but that doesn't mean that it can't be true.
47 · Manjupolitical achievements? isn't she a butler?
No kidding! It seems odd to "celebrate" her (as opposed to lust after her).
beautiful people get more attention. in every culture. we're all the same.I agree with this psot.
Also, I think Obama should win. All the other candidates have to make do with their hot aides-de-camp or spouses, whereas Obama is hot all by himself - he doesn't even need Michelle to prop him up.
Ahh, politics.
beautiful people get more attention. in every culture. we're all the same.
this is immature. "we're all the same tralalala" doesn't account for societal perceptions cultivated by years of living in a society that doesn't treat us the same. No one is arguing that beautiful people don't get attention, the idea is.. this is the first that I (and I'd say many others) have even heard of this woman... and it looks like she's selling perfume rather than working at the white house.
There's a reason for that. And Kucinich's wife isn't a valid counterpoint.
Back up the truck (please horn please ok):
one of the candidates I was eyeing as the potential recipient of my vote made a monumental policy blunder (which made me question everything about this candidate
ARE YOU MAD??
I mean, I can totally see how investing in space exploration is more important than reforming a crumbling education system. After all, why fix things when we can launch illiterate kids into orbit?
Can we also divert funding from the safety of currently deployed forces in favor of a system with a really cool name?
I m just saying, if I was at the negotiation table I'd commit to any concession she proposed. Let's give peace a chance.
Dinner with Clintons
Cast : Bill, Hillary, Atal, General Musharaff, Sonia, BB, chinese President, Chinese kid, MAdhuri dixit.
Setting : White house
You can read the entire play in the above link but getting straight to the end (pg 6)...
Madhuri Enters...
Bill : It is not without difficulty ( looks at Hillary ) that I've negotiated things with Madhuri. General, CIA has informed me reliably that your army will gladly settle for Madhuri in exchange for Kashmir. There will be a mutiny if you refuse. So General why don't you take Madhuri out and see if you can come....to any conclusion
Exit General and Madhuri...
Atal: Madhuri, Madhuri.
Also, I think Obama should win. All the other candidates have to make do with their hot aides-de-camp or spouses, whereas Obama is hot all by himself - he doesn't even need Michelle to prop him up.
Totally agree with Nina. And with Andrew Sullivan.
>>She interned at the White House in the mid-90s
Yep. She's a roll model...
M. Nam
definitely not bill's type
again, she's attractive.
Not much substantial to say about Abedin the staffer. She's a gofer, not a policy figure, in the Clinton campaign.
But in real life, Huma Abedin is also an editor of the Journal of Muslim Minority Affairs, founded by her late father, the Indian scholar Syed Z. Abedin. The journal isn't available to non-subscribers on-line, so you'd have to be in a university to see what it's all about.
Here's a quote from Syed Abedin on minority issues:
In the matter of gathering information and seeking solutions to minority problems, it is also absolutely essential for the Ummah to realize that minority living is a two-way street. You talk and you listen. You take, but you also give. You respect first and then you gain respect and attain credibility- and dignity. There cannot, absolutely cannot, be any discussion of minority problems with only one side present. Dialogue is the essence even of dawah. It needs above all moral courage of the highest Islamic order, especially in present times when religious and political polarization has reached lethal proportions
You don't need to be a Muslim minority to take that piece of advice. It applies to Desi-Americans as well.
59 · IkramIt needs above all moral courage of the highest Islamic order, especially in present times when religious and political polarization has reached lethal proportions
You don't need to be a Muslim minority to take that piece of advice. It applies to Desi-Americans as well.
Err, not so much, actually . . . . thanks for the thought, though.
>>You don't need to be a Muslim minority to take that piece of advice. It applies to Desi-Americans as well
What if the majority of desi-americans belong to a religion which does not inculcate a minority-complex?
M. Nam
and it looks like she's selling perfume rather than working at the white house.
she's not working in the white house. she's hillary's butler/rumored lover. ergo, the counter-example of kucinich's spouse. dana perino, in a far more weighty position, gets a similar treatment, though she chose not to pose in a mag. hillary's done a vogue spread, as as dem fundraiser particia duff, of the top of my head. vogue, btw, has been critized for not featuring women of color. i recall annna wintour having some nasty things to say about j.lo once.
if anything, i would say white women get objectified more and desi women are sterotyped as smart.
vikram's right: she does lool like amy winehouse...after some rehab.
What if the majority of desi-americans belong to a religion which does not inculcate a minority-complex?
All the squealing of the spoor lams in America suggest every desi-american group has members who inculcate a hysterical persecution complex, as many squealers prove in the comments threads here.
Ikram
Dialogue is the essence even of dawah.
Other desi-Americans don't have a concept of 'dawah' so it's not an exact fit.
apparently, the Assistant Secretary of State for Educational and Cultural Affairs, Dina Habib Powell, is a hottie too.
66 · Manju apparently, the Assistant Secretary of State for Educational and Cultural Affairs, Dina Habib Powell, is a hottie too.
And, she's leaving her "gubmint" post for a job at Goldman. My kind of gal. ;-)
i recall annna wintour having some nasty things to say about j.lo once.
I know this is OT, but what did she say about J Lo?
Obama's comments on suspending space exploration for education may harken back to Martin Luther King's quote:
"And I say to you today, that if our nation can spend thirty-five billion dollars a year to fight an unjust, evil war in Vietnam, and twenty billion dollars to put a man on the moon, it can spend billions of dollars to put God's children on their own two feet right here on earth..."
I agree with the sentiment and the money can come out of the military budget--no need to touch space exploration.
See Ben Cohen's stacks of oreos--it's pretty insane. There's more than enough $ to go around.
(For the record, I'm still on the fence regarding who I'll vote for . . .)
I know this is OT, but what did she say about J Lo?
it was always j.lo's dream to appear in vogue. early in her career she approached vogue with the idea only to be rebuffed. anna was rumored to say something about "trashy" "low class" etc. wintour has long been accused of avoiding "ethnic" models as they call them in the biz. but since that uproar, i think j.lo has appeared.
i forgot who my source is on this, but i knew a few people in the industry at the time, including one who worked closely w/ wintour. i thinks its widely known but maybe JOAT can swoop in to confirm.
MoorNam wrote:
What if the majority of desi-americans belong to a religion which does not inculcate a minority-complex?
Wonderful thought. But numerous comment threads here complaining of persecution of Hindus suggest otherwise (as does the California taxt book thing). In fact, you could argue that Indian Hindus, a majority, have a minority complex.
But that would be off-topic.
And, she's leaving her "gubmint" post for a job at Goldman. My kind of gal. ;-)
yeah: bush administration, goldman...that's hot
"whom I'll vote for"
ikram: perhaps the religion of perpetual persecution to which MoorNam refers is multi-cultural secular progressivism. You know, No WOC in Vogue. We're oppressed! WOC appears in Vogue. Hey, stop objectifying us!
OK so she's very pretty. She's got great hair, a greater wardrobe, and has received lavish praise from none other than Oscar de la Renta.
What is to be politically celebrated about her? We all know Hills wouldn't hesitate to bitch slap the woman into submission if she stepped out of line. Yes, she's privy to things most would only dream of. But her "power" is somewhat nonexistent.
>>numerous comment threads here complaining of persecution of Hindus suggest otherwise (as does the California taxt book thing). In fact, you could argue that Indian Hindus, a majority, have a minority complex
A minority-complex and a persecution-complex are two different things. As the history of the sub-continent has played out, for a thousand years it was the minority Mughals/British persecuring a majority. Even in the California text book case, it was the minority(leftist professors, academics) persecuting a majority (taxpaying Hindus).
You are automatically assuming persecution=must-be-minority. Not true at all.
M. Nam
What is to be politically celebrated about her?
77 · Manju Benson
Yeah, or Jeeves!
there have been some attempts to sex up condi rice, including a vogue spread in an evening gown, but they never quite stuck. but her legs are spectacular, i understand, and i recall Ariel Sharon was quite mesmerized by them.
Does anyone here think that Hillary Clinton is not a lesbion?
Human and Hillary are banging or scissoring as they say on South Park.
she's not working in the white house. she's hillary's butler/rumored lover. ergo, the counter-example of kucinich's spouse. dana perino, in a far more weighty position, gets a similar treatment, though she chose not to pose in a mag. hillary's done a vogue spread, as as dem fundraiser particia duff, of the top of my head. vogue, btw, has been critized for not featuring women of color. i recall annna wintour having some nasty things to say about j.lo once.
if anything, i would say white women get objectified more and desi women are sterotyped as smart.
True, I meant to say "potentially working in the white house" kucinich's spouse is not a counter example, because its the combination of sexuality & politics with TWO people.
As for vogue not featuring women of color, that criticism could very well hold. The issue here isn't who vogue choses to and not to feature, rather its how they're featuring this particular person.
The vogue picture doesn't indicate any kind of relationship between huma and hill (rumored or otherwise).
if Hill does a vogue spread, it's somewhat moot, because from other sources, we all know where her true talents (or lack thereof, if that's your opinion) lay.
Does anyone here think that Hillary Clinton is not a lesbion?
i don't believe it, but then again, gennifer flowers has never been known to lie:
There’s something you need to know. I’ve been hearing tales around town that Hillary is having another thing with a woman.” I watched his face to see his reaction, and couldn’t believe it when he burst out laughing. I was stunned! I asked him what was so funny. “Honey,” he said, “she’s probably eaten more pussy than I have.”Bill said he had known for a long time that Hillary was attracted to women, and it didn’t really bother him anymore. His first clue came from her lack of enjoyment of sex with him. She didn’t like to experiment and insisted on the missionary position and nothing else. Because she wasn’t enjoying herself; neither was he. Sex with her became a duty; nothing more.
Huma is going find that working with either Hillary or Bill is going leave her with a bad taste in the mouth in the end...
HMF:
You're right. I am using my Wintour contacts to lodge a protest with Vogue. Next time, they should reveal Huma's true talents by portraying her doing what she does professionally: servicing Hillary.
Huma is going find that working with either Hillary or Bill is going leave her with a bad taste in the mouth in the end
HAHAHA I get it. Bad taste in her mouth. Priceless.
Interesting post. I agree with Bill and Hillary closer to the Indian community than ever this would prove to be great for the community. Many Hillary staffers are Indian Americans and I'm sure they will work within the administration if all comes about. I have met Huma a few times and will tell you she is a bit intimidating. Keeps close tabs on Hillary and knows all of whats going on. She doesn't like to talk to many people and kind of is a more interpersonal Secret Service agent that is protecting Hillary from everything but physical harm. Although I am sure she wouldn't be chief of staff, she will def. be one of the top advisors and assistants to a second President Clinton.
None the less I think at large this will be good for the Indian American community.
Varun
www.usinpac2008.com
don't worry vikram. that'll only happen if she blows it. the way things are going with her, she'll be sitting on the presidential staff in no time.
don't worry vikram. that'll only happen if she blows it. the way things are going with her, she'll be sitting on the presidential staff in no time.
Hopefully it won't stain her career or reputation.
I think she can take the heat. She is most likely used to Hillary coming down hard on her all the time.
Hopefully it won't stain her career or reputation.
well, she's taken on quite a load. Hu knows what's to come.
She is most likely used to Hillary coming down hard on her all the time.
Bill better watch it. Huma will be taking his rightful position
well, she's taken on quite a load. Hu knows what's to come.
She might choke under the pressure of her position.
Huma is more like a care giver then a advisor. Since it get's so cold in the winter time in New York, she always makes sure Hillary has a muff around her mouth.
Bill is going leave her with a bad taste in the mouth in the end...
vikram: in the mouth or in the end. make up your mind
Since it get's so cold in the winter time in New York, she always makes sure Hillary has a muff around her mouth.
if the healthcare fiasco is any indication, it is hillary that likes to muffle her advisors
vikram: in the mouth or in the end. make up your mind
All depends on how Bill spins around the issue at hand.
If hillary comes out of the closet or is outed by the rightwing, will this affect the election ? Any opinions >
Enough. It's not even witty anymore. Continue and I'll close it.
Hillary is just using Bill Clinton as a beard to hide her relationship with her Muslim aide. You know who else has a beard? Osama. Whose name rhymes with Obama. As for Obama, he's courting the alien vote, which is why he's against space exploration and keeping Mars a safe harbor for Martians.
Fox News, you heard it here first!
If hillary comes out of the closet or is outed by the rightwing, will this affect the election ? Any opinions >
Ever since Gary Bauer, it's pretty much been a rule of politics that sex scandals (and being 'outed' does count as a scandal in america) scupper your chances of winning elections. I think there's been maybe one or two 'openly' gay congressmen, but none who were previously a public hetero, were 'outed' and then won their election.. The GOP would rest easier, no doubt, if such a story would gain traction in the mainstream media. Fortunately for Hillary, a publication like Newsweek/TIME/NYT (to my knowledge) hasn't decided that this rumor deserves a spot online or in print.
Fox News, you heard it here first!
Shep Smith has the best makeup artist in the biz. He cannot lie.
i skimmed through the comments, so i apologize if this was already discussed; but does anyone else find de la renta's comments kind of annoying? "“She is an unbelievably feminine and gentle person, but at the same time she can accomplish so much". how exactly are feminity and gentleness exclusive from accomplishment? why the need for the word but? maybe it seems like i'm overanalyzing, but the subtlety of words is powerful...
Enough. It's not even witty anymore. Continue and I'll close it.awwwww come on.
I've noticed that political discussion about Hillary Clinton or democrats brings out the usual suspects on SM and it devolves into childish innuendo.
i recall annna wintour having some nasty things to say about j.lo once.
Once?
" When it comes to Hillary, people have no sense of Huma "
3) Abhi isn't available during the day, so if you pose questions to him, expect responses after COB
After COB I read some comments that annoyed me (due to their ignorance). Then I thought, the display of ignorance isn't enough to cause anger at someone, so I went to my yoga class in hopes that my eventual responses would be tempered by inner calmness and I would not become too attached the the "outcome" of this "debate."
I am happy to see that Obama has taken the libertarian turn of wanting to cut down on taxpayer funding of (non-miliatary-related) NASA projects, in order to let the private sector in, to the extent that such projects make sense at all.
Libertarianism will always fail to rule a society. People always want other peoples projects to be cut. When it comes to their own stuff or their aspirations or inspirations they suddenly don't feel so Libertarian.
Abhi, the Constellation Program ain't everything. Let's hear what Obama and his people have in mind overall for fully fledged space and NASA policies before we go rushing into Ms. Clinton's camp because of Huma, and expect Huma to fix or eradicate the LOC. I suspect Ms. Clinton is just waffling by throwing out shadow soundbites about how wonderful the Constellation program is, considering it has stalled. After all, Hillary 's clearly on the way to keeping the Iraq war going on and on, which will make make progress in space exploration impossible anyway. Plus. don't you think developing solar energy first is more expedient than getting to Mars?
I beg to differ. It all depends on where you stand. To me, the Constellation Program is everything. Obama's policy on this issue is on record and was widely described as imbecilic (and for good reason if you understand U.S. Space Policy and Strategic objectives, not to mention the 10,000s of jobs his "plan" would cost. And where do you get your information from when you say the program has "stalled?" That is totally false. Also, the Constellation Program is not primarily (or even secondarily) about getting to Mars. That's the whole point as to why Obama's policy on this issue is so incredibly ignorant. Furthermore, it would never pass the House or the Senate. Space has wide bipartisan support.
ARE YOU MAD?? I mean, I can totally see how investing in space exploration is more important than reforming a crumbling education system. After all, why fix things when we can launch illiterate kids into orbit? Can we also divert funding from the safety of currently deployed forces in favor of a system with a really cool name?
I'll tell you what. Let's do away with all museums while we are at it. We could feed hungry children with that money. Also, lets get rid of the symphony. Who will think of the children? Taking money from one of the biggest educators of children (especially science and math) to fund the technical education of children (who now don't have a cool job to aspire to) is plainly stupid.
Now I will center myself again before going to bed. Goodnight.
Abhi,
Fair point about museums--and cert. basic science is also a public good that needs some public financing (though public financing of symphonies is more problematic, I think), but, while I'm far from an expert on this topic for sure, isn't there a fair amount of sensible, informed opinion that basic science in space can be done much more cost-effectively with unmanned flights--so, to the extent Constellation Project includes expensive manned stuff, I'm not so sure it's crazy to say, "Feds should cut it out, and leave the manned stuff to the private sector."
Or, I don't know, maybe my head is just messed up because I feel guilty for finding "Obama girl" to be cuter than Huma . . . .
;-)
http://americanradioworks.publicradio.org/features/staffers/travdat/staffer.php?staffer_id=s8
just check her signatures in the source....i am kinda skeptical abt people who change their sign. :D
is it natural(common) to change ur sign. after becoming an adult....??
i am kinda skeptical abt people who change their sign... is it natural(common) to change ur sign. after becoming an adult....??
I agree, a signature is a choice, not something you're born with. I chose mine at age thirteen.
seriously, how does she pay for those bags and clothes on her salary?
Abhi, there's this guy, Ferris Valyn, on the Obama site, since I'm there anyway, and yours above linked to his a couple of clicks away. Ferris Valyn also says in dailykos that the shuttle replacement from Constellation won't fly until 2014 - 2016, which is what I meant by stalled. Shouldn't NASA/the Const.Project have scheduled something to take over manned flight without interruption as soon as the shuttles were retired? Meanwhile, when I first heard of SpaceDev it was a nanocap, looking for promo writers, even one such as me, to lure investors (my jaw dropped, I was not hired), and it looked neat but nutty, and now look how it's grown in just the past three years.
I just think that this guy is not fueled by the same juice as this gal.
she looks like a femme fatale of other kind
if Bill can do it....why not Hillary :P
Shouldn't NASA/the Const.Project have scheduled something to take over manned flight without interruption as soon as the shuttles were retired?
You are absolutely right, and the head of NASA all but yelled at Congress a few weeks ago calling that "gap" irresponsible of them. But there is an important detail you are neglecting. NASA can't do a single thing on its own. Congress has to fund and direct all of NASA's activities. If NASA doesn't get money to have something ready after the shuttle then why should it get your blame?
By the way, I was at the first ever private launch into space which took place a few years ago in the Mohave desert (Spaceship 1). You can support both private and public. The United States is the only nation in the world capable of something right now. Too create a situation (like Obama is proposing) where we would lose our ability to do something while other nations gained the ability to do it is a blunder. Do you have any idea how many scientists and engineers are being bred in China right now because their space program is a front and center national priority?
From last night's CNN/YouTube Republican Debate (I promise this is the last comment taking this thread off-topic).
"Steve Nielson: My name is Steve Nielson. And this question comes to you from Denver, Colorado. JFK's vision put a man on the moon from a nonexistent space program in about seven years. The new vision for space exploration has provided about 15 years for that same feat. Meanwhile, Congress is pulling funding for human-to-Mars research altogether. Is there a candidate amongst you willing to take a pledge on behalf of the Mars Society of sending an American to the surface of Mars by 2020? If not, what is your vision for human space exploration?
Cooper: Governor Huckabee?
NASA pumps some -- let's see, how many -- $5 billion into Florida's economy.
Huckabee: Whether we ought to go to Mars is not a decision that I would want to make, but I would certainly want to make sure that we expand the space program, because every one of us who are sitting here tonight have our lives dramatically improved because there was a space program -- whether it's these screens that we see or the incredible electronics that we use, including the GPS systems that got many of you to this arena tonight.
(Laughter)
Some of you were late because you didn't have one, by the way. Or whether it's the medical technologies that saved many of our lives or the lives or our families, it's the direct result of the space program, and we need to put more money into science and technology and exploration. Now, whether we need to send somebody to Mars, I don't know. But I'll tell you what: If we do, I've got a few suggestions, and maybe Hillary could be on the first rocket to Mars.
(Laughter)
Cooper: Congressman Tancredo, 30 seconds, please.
Tancredo: The question is a serious one and it deserves a serious answer, and that is this: Look, we've been -- how many times up here, how many questions have dealt with the issue of deficit spending, the debt out of control? And yet, we have somebody saying, "But would you spend more money on going to Mars?" And the suggestion that we need to spend more money on space exploration. This is it, folks. That's why we have such incredible problems with our debt, because everybody's trying to be everything to all people. We can't afford some things, and by the way, going to Mars is one of them."
>>Libertarianism will always fail to rule a society.
How do you know this? It's never been tried before...
>>When it comes to their own stuff or their aspirations or inspirations they suddenly don't feel so Libertarian
I couple of examples would be nice..
M. Nam
NASA pumps some -- let's see, how many -- $5 billion into Florida's economy.
And how much do the tax-payers pump into NASA budget? :)
oops, "..NASA's budget annually?"
i skimmed through the comments, so i apologize if this was already discussed; but does anyone else find de la renta's comments kind of annoying? "“She is an unbelievably feminine and gentle person, but at the same time she can accomplish so much". how exactly are feminity and gentleness exclusive from accomplishment? why the need for the word but? maybe it seems like i'm overanalyzing, but the subtlety of words is powerful...
That annoyed me too. Old school patronizing sexism.
Re #116
>>Libertarianism will always fail to rule a society.How do you know this? It's never been tried before...
I realise that this is off topic, but I can't resist the following observation. On a bad day, I wish that a Libertarian revolution takes place in the U.S. Chances are that, over a period of, say, a century, the nation's arch-Libertarians would have presided over such a thorough rape and plunder of a once-proud society that we would no longer have to waste resources arguing about whether Libertarianism is good or bad. Look... Libertarianism is an ideology, and one cannot organise a large, heterogeneous, pluralistic society on the basis of an ideology.
Need I remind readers of SM about what a tragic mess resulted when the principles of minimal government collided with Hurricane Katrina ? (Of course, shit-and-run tacticians such as Toomar Nam will have a nice Adlerian defence of what happened.)
The concept of minimal government may not a bad one when one considers its impact streamlining small-bore socio-economic services. But Libertarians have no convincing arguments on how the excesses of the Gilded Age can be avoided without state intervention; i.e. I see no arguments that do not boil down to some sort of econo-babble involving the Homo economicus and the Nash equilibrium!
I couple of examples would be nice..
Long-Island-based Libertarian mavens-cum-parents who staunchly oppose the War on Marijuana, and support putting more blacks into jail ;-)
GB:
>>I realise that this is off topic,
Not entirely. We are talking about the elections, and the Libertarian Ron Paul has been quite prominent.
>>Chances are that, over a period of, say, a century, the nation's arch-Libertarians would have presided over such a thorough rape and plunder of a once-proud society ...Of course, shit-and-run tacticians such as Toomar Nam
If you want to be taken seriously, try not to use hyperbole doomsday scenarios and word play with posters' names.
>>Long-Island-based Libertarian mavens-cum-parents who staunchly oppose the War on Marijuana, and support putting more blacks into jail ;-)
I oppose the war on drugs as well - it's not the government's job to regulate private consumption.
As regards to the second - I've never heard of any Libertarian who's a racist.
>>Libertarianism is an ideology, and one cannot organise a large, heterogeneous, pluralistic society on the basis of an ideology
The whole idea of Libertarianism is that nobody has the right to organise societies - people should be left to themselves to exercise their free will to survive and prosper.
M. Nam
Ooooops.... Comment #120:
Long-Island-based Libertarian mavens-cum-parents who staunchly oppose the War on Marijuana, and support putting more blacks into jail ;-)
should read as: Long-Island-based Libertarian mavens-cum-parents who staunchly support the War on Marijuana, and support putting more blacks into jail ;-) Satisfied, M. Nam!?! And Moor Nam, baby, what's with all your the selective quotation, eh ?
>>Chances are that, over a period of, say, a century, the nation's arch-Libertarians would have presided over such a thorough rape and plunder of a once-proud society ...Of course, shit-and-run tacticians such as Toomar Nam
If you want to be taken seriously, try not to use hyperbole doomsday scenarios and word play with posters' names.
Hurricane Katrina wasn't doomsday, I agree. But close enough... to those affected by it.