I wonder if their superiors required viewing this DOJ training vid:

http://www.usdoj.gov/crs/video/ocg-video.htm

Sounds bad, but it seems as if the Kirpan set him off. Police officers will not let a weapon (which the Kirpan is to non-Sikhs) in plain site while they are conducting an investigation.

The more I read about this case, I think the fault is 50/50. Sure the cops overreacted, but the sister seems to think the kirpan, shaped like a knife is ok to have around cops investigating a crime scene. These aren't the innocent victims of a hate crime they portray themselves out to be. I'll save my outrage for real hate crimes.

vikram - you're statement is troubling. are you saying the police response is justified? this seems to be a clear cut case of ignorance and racism. i hope that ACLU is getting involved with this. this a complete violation of civil rights.

Sounds bad, but it seems as if the Kirpan set him off. Police officers will not let a weapon (which the Kirpan is to non-Sikhs) in plain site while they are conducting an investigation.

It's not in Abhi's quote but they proceeded to handcuff other people including a 60 year old mother. Second, if a white guy was robbed and a cop came in and saw the white guy holding a shotgun, he'd simply ask the homeowner to put it away while they talked. These cops weren't at all interested in investigating the theft.

Vikram -

Firstly, you have the right to be armed with most things in your house, including a kirpan. Secondly:

instead of pursuing the thieves, the police officers began grilling a family member, Kawaljeet Kaur, about her kirpan. Though Kawaljeet told the officer that her kirpan is an article of faith and it is her constitutional right to carry it, the officer ordered her to "shut up" and that he "doesn't care." The officer called for back up and pointed a Taser gun at Kawaljeet's head. Kawaljeet offered to leave the house if her kirpan was bothering the officer to no avail. Soon more officers arrived at their home. HarrisCounty officers soon began handcuffing family members, four in all, including Kawaljeet's sixty-year-old mother. None of the other family members were carrying kirpans. [Link

No I am not saying it is justified. I am saying that in a crime scene, police officer's are trained to behave threateningly to someone with a weapon. Obviously it's part of her religion, but would it have been so much to ask to put it away until the cops left? Her constitutional rights I am sure would not be an issue when she has to take it off to get on a plane! I have said the cops overreacted, but it's not a clear case of ignorance and racism as you claim.

Vikram - the Sheriff's office didn't offer that excuse. They said that if true, the actions taken were against their policies.

Ennis,

Yes a redneck would probably have a gun, but I can assure you if he had it out while a police officer came to investigate, the cop would handcuff him. Leaving the crime scene is not the same. She still has the weapon on her person and is now away from where the officer can see her. Even worse.

Vikram -

Firstly, the cops have identified no such policy. And it's perfectly reasonable for somebody to have a gun while waiting for the cops to arrive, as long as they don't point it at them, ESPECIALLY IN TEXAS.

Secondly, if you're making a complaint one family member can leave. I don't know where you're getting this from, but that's not "leaving the crime scene" I've reported a robbery that happened, my roomates were able to enter and leave as they wished.

Sure we wait to here the other side before we rush to make a judgement on this case.

Wasn't there a post about a year ago about a cop in Illinois where everybody made a rush to judgement before all the facts were in.

Please don't leave comments as me, use your own handle.

Was your roomate who was coming and going in possesion of a weapon in the open for which he refused to put away?

And police brutality and racial profiling live on. No matter how much "sensitivity training" they're given, they still don't learn.

That's simply because ignorance begins at home.

Vikram, again the police aren't offering any of the justifications that you're making.

Hours after the initial 911 call, a supervisor showed up and ordered the deputies to unhandcuff the family, Singh said.
"He was like, 'Yeah, these guys are young. They don't know any better,' " Singh said. "I'm like, 'That's fine but that's no excuse to treat anybody this way.'" [ Link">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6150136.html">Link]

Kawaljeet Kaur has not been charged with any crime. NOBODY from the police has said she was wrong to be armed in her own house. Instead the police said that if this report is accurate it is AGAINST THEIR PROCEDURES.

So why do you insist on making up excuses when the cops aren't?

And police brutality and racial profiling live on. No matter how much "sensitivity training" they're given, they still don't learn.

Who are they? White cops? So the action of few is OK to paint them all the same way. I just love the double standard.

Jef

"It couldn't have been the kirpan." Because you were there when all this was going down. Let's wait till the investigation is done. I still don't think this is as clear cut based on how the sister reaction. She sounds like a shrew.

19 · vikram said

She sounds like a shrew.

yep. that justifies it. case closed.

17 · Ennis said

So why do you insist on making up excuses when the cops aren't?

because vikram never met a hate crime victim he didn't find guilty.

18 · Suki Dillon said

Who are they? White cops? So the action of few is OK to paint them all the same way. I just love the double standard.

I just love how you rush to whitey's defense when whitey's not even under attack. Well played, old chum!

19 · vikram said

Jef

"It couldn't have been the kirpan." Because you were there when all this was going down. Let's wait till the investigation is done. I still don't think this is as clear cut based on how the sister reaction. She sounds like a shrew.

Shrew you. You're a real stickler for 'investigation' and 'let's wait for the truth' eh?

19 · vikram said

Jef

"It couldn't have been the kirpan." Because you were there when all this was going down. Let's wait till the investigation is done. I still don't think this is as clear cut based on how the sister reaction. She sounds like a shrew.

Vikram,
It is a little unfair to make disparaging remarks about people you barely know. Go back to your room, now.

Jef - it's a very important issue and one that I had been planning to post on last week. Sometimes even important things can slip.

Wow. Man, if anything this is a clear cut case of flat out ignorance and racism. I truly do not understand all these calls for "let us hear the other side." What da F**k?!!!!!

I absolutely agree with Jef (comment 16)----it is obvious that the problem started as soon as the cop saw what the caller looked like...at that point the cop made a cognitive short-cut fueled by ignorance: turban = osama bin laden = muslim (hence the later comment that was made about knowing what muslims are about).

I sincerely cannot believe that in a blog about south asian american issues anyone can be so freakin' naive or so blind to the fact that since 911 there have been numerous hate crimes that have targeted sikhs. why would the cops be immune to this pervasive ignorance? And, how can you not get that?!

I had emailed you this tip nearly three days back. And I am sure you had heard from others even before that. What took you so long in posting about this incident? You were celebrating Eid and watching Aunty Padma on TV?

Jeff I know you have good intentions but we hate comments like this. Yes, you weren't the first to send us this, a local blogger and commenter (Ruchira) was. There is no assignment desk at SM. Each blogger blogs about whatever they want to blog about whenever they want to blog about it. Some posts take a lot out of time if you want to write them properly. I stayed home from work today for medical reasons and was thus able to devote time to write a post with more links and useful information.

30 · Abhi said

I stayed home from work today for medical reasons

Call in gay was yesterday, Abhi. ;-)

Call in gay was yesterday, Abhi. ;-)

I partied too hard yesterday and needed another day ;)

vikram said "She sounds like a shrew."

and now you're sounding sexist! she's confident and knows her rights. more power to her and her family for not staying silent and accepting any blame for this situation.

26 and 32. Jef Costello said

I had emailed you this tip nearly three days back. And I am sure you had heard from others even before that. What took you so long in posting about this incident? You were celebrating Eid and watching Aunty Padma on TV?

...My apologies for the acerbic comment. In spite of the late turnaround, we all love Sepia Mutiny.

I know Abhi and Ennis already responded to you, but since you called ME out in your criticism--I was the one watching "Aunty Padma" (zing! you're acerbic all right!) on TV, after all-- I feel like it's appropriate to respond.

I was confused by your apology, in part because the comment for which you are making amends involved you singling out a sweet, utterly apposite post about Eid, the sort of post which makes people feel happy and welcome here and helps build our community-- the same community which then mobilizes for causes like...responding to a Sheriff-elect after an incident like this. Then I saw your back-handed "in spite of the late turnaround, we all love" and realized that you are, in fact, oddly incapable of letting go of your central point about our tardiness even while you are apologizing for writing it in the first place.

I agree with one thing you wrote:

Now, let's get back to the kanjars.

...and I don't want to derail this thread further, either.

I've had cops refuse to investigate a big burglary upstate, but this is assault!
I also remember an elderly lady whose husband (both white, lived here all their lives) was stabbed in their pharmacy in my very family-oriented NYC neighborhood a few years ago and left to die in a pool of blood, and the cops never investigated his death, no matter how she begged, and it was never reported in the press. This looks like the police figured this course of conduct to be the path of least resistance, so it's good that they are being proven wrong.

once i was standing in a crowd of spectators after a big sporting event, a fair distance from some commotion and celebratory riots. at the first instance of being ordered to disperse, everyone started doing so. no one was loud, no one was raucous...everyone was just shuffling along and had been watching out curiosity, more than anything, including me and my two white friends. there were some cops around, dressed in full riot gear, monitoring our progress while standing on the sidewalks. no big deal, really. we were on a public street that had been shut down to accommodate the crowds. then, a cop hopped off the sidewalk, pushed through the crowd, approached me and blasted me point blank in the face with pepper spray. i went down screaming. my two friends just yelled "WHAT THE F*CK!" and he blasted them too. then, from what i was told by strangers, because my friends and i were all writhing on the ground, the cop just walked off. the strangers helped us up, and we made to a local fast food joint, where people let us skip the line to the pisser to wash out our eyes..

above all my local sports team regalia, i wear a turban on my head. to him, i probably looked like i helped out in 9/11, a dirty moslem. but no matter - under vikram's rationale, because i might have been breaking the rules a bit by being too slow to get out of an area from where the police officers told us to disperse, i deserved what i got. as did my friends.

for the record, i am a bit of a shrew, too.

That is indeed expedient and efficient of Sach productions...I remember catching this story on the news and intending to post it to the tip line, but not finding anything online (that evening) to which I could link. Kudos to them.

>>So why do you insist on making up excuses when the cops aren't?

Why? what Vikram does is basically called 'licking the gora feet' (or other body parts). These types subscribe to the belief that the gora always is right by default, and the desi must have done something wrong. After all, the gora does allow the poor desi to live in this wonderful, great country of milk and honey as a big favour, no?

The roots of this behaviour can be traced to the years of colonial rule in India. remnants of this exist in India as fanciful tales about the gora's honesty, promptness, fairness, efficiency, work ethic, cleanliness, tidiness, etc. Some of us who have been to Gora lands for a while do know that the gora is just like the rest of the world in such matters, but the likes of Vikram still believe in all that and Santa despite all evidence to the contrary.

The unfortunate thing is, even getting kicked by a redneck shouting something like 'towelhead, go back!' will not open these peoples eyes. They will blame themselves even then.

Kudos to this strong, articulate family for publicizing this troubling incident. No doubt there's many more that families just ignore or try to forget. And I love knowing there's a group like Sach Productions that can turnaround on such documentaries so quickly. (It would be great if every minority group was this organized.) At the same time, I have to say I cracked up when I saw the son re-creating the scene of running around the house, with his flip-flops. I would've edited out that scene. Documentaries don't normally make you re-create poignant moments in your story. Hilarious, lol.

These people have carried themselves with the utmost dignity and self-respect. I admire their spirit, pride, and eloquence. Terrible what happened to them. Glad that they are getting support.

There was this incident in the Bay Area 5 years back which ended much worse.

Why? what Vikram does is basically called 'licking the gora feet' (or other body parts). These types subscribe to the belief that the gora always is right by default, and the desi must have done something wrong. After all, the gora does allow the poor desi to live in this wonderful, great country of milk and honey as a big favour, no?

I think that is an unfair attack on Vikram, and many times in the past I have had the same comments said about me.

This story is just so utterly appalling. It made me sick when I read it.

I have said the cops overreacted, but it's not a clear case of ignorance and racism as you claim.

Let's remember one other thing: while the cops were busy harassing and overreacting to the kirpan, they were not investigating the crime that actually took place - the burglary. Presumably there is still a robber running loose because the police officers were too busy getting their racism on. So this case is not only a matter of gross injustice against an innocent family - it's bad police work too.

So, even if I am not Sikh, even if I am not desi, even if I don't care about Sikhs or Muslims or social justice, even if I am totally and completely 100% selfish, I still have an interest in seeing the police officers in question disciplined for this incident. Because if their racism interferes with their ability to do the job taxpayers are giving them a salary to do - keep the neighborhood safe - that is EVERYONE'S problem. And it's not going to go away if enough excuses are made about this incident.

So, even if I am not Sikh, even if I am not desi, even if I don't care about Sikhs or Muslims or social justice, even if I am totally and completely 100% selfish, I still have an interest in seeing the police officers in question disciplined for this incident.

This is a good way to put such incidents in perspective. Even if this was white on white or black on black injustice, it is injustice nevertheless. This part of the equation tends to get lost when religion and ethnicity are discussed. It's hard to leave these factors out of this discussion of course since they are relevant to the case, but I think it tends to obscure the larger point about the injustice.

oruvan

First off, I would love to see you say that to my face. Personally I don't like cops. I think they can be jack booted thugs. But I also think people who are so naive to think that when a cop in doing an investigation that it is ok to keep a knife on their person, are plain stupid. And I can't stand identity politics victims like you. I am a desi therefore I must back the desi version of the story. Same as a white person saying I am white so I must back the white person.

"And police brutality and racial profiling live on. No matter how much "sensitivity training" they're given, they still don't learn. Ignorance begins at home."

You say ignorance. They say experience. I rode in a police car once for kicks (not sure if that was legal), seen the rank underbelly they deal with day in, day out, and the idea of being "sensitive" can sometimes be so funny, it's, well, deadly. btw--one of the cops was Columbian background of all things, the other one Italian I think. One was my neighbor.

They don't even respond to a lot of neighborhood calls because no matter what they do, it won't be right. I came to think that each ethnicity needs their own police, much like policewomen usually handle female violators.
More on topic of this post, cops should learn more about desis, especially the ones with turbans. Desis, outside of domestic cases, don't have a street rep for violence and for f$#k sake, we had nothing to do with 9/11.
However, I think their attitude is they'd rather stay alive than risk being sensitive. They're not social workers. When the cop depended on his "intuition", he often ended up dead. They are trained by the book to be robot-like and go strictly by the rules because that's what works for all concerned.
Still, in the case of the situation describe above, a knife is not likely to be a danger like a gun, so I think they probably violated procedure.

This family have conducted themselves with integrity, decency and proportion. Vikram's comments are pathetic, offensive, preumptious and bigoted. Sorry to say this, because I know you probably don't like language like this, but Gungadin-ism is a reality, and it's on display here.

First off, I would love to see you say that to my face.

I would say it to your face, Vikram, if I could get over there to America from England to say it. You make it sound as if it would be some kind of challenge, but to be honest, it sounds like it would be fun.

is there a reason that we're still engaging vikram in this conversation? i'm never one to ostracize someone for having contrary beliefs - i too often have beliefs that might be ridiculed or question by the blogosphere masses (not liberal). but.....this is just ridiculous. if the "shrew" comment didn't give away his underlying bias or lack of objective thought, it's the use of catch phrases like "identity politics," when the term is wholly inapplicable to the instant situation. if i may be concise, "moron" may be the apt term. not for his position, but for how he's stubbornly stood by his position without the ability to substantiate or justify it despite repeated calls to do so.

so, ignore the f*cking moron, who is probably thriving off of being a contrarian to us mass liberal PC hoardes. and yes, vikram, i'd say all this to your face in a heartbeat, as i have to any number of other fools i've come across in the realz world. i question if you'd be saying all this to any of our faces rather than from behind the anonymity of the internet...especially calling a woman a shrew to her face when she's wearing a big bad dangerous 3" long dull kirpan!

>>One deputy reportedly asked them if they’d “heard about the bombings in Bombay.”

Huh? The appropriate response would be: "Can you even point to Bombay in a world map?". I hope the deputies have the book thrown at them.

M. Nam

Ennis,

Thanks for posting this. Sizzle is sad to know what you had to go through. I don't think many people who don't wear a patka will ever truly understand what sikhs have to go through post 9/11 so I guess restraint in trying to justify the cops actions is necessary.

Couple of things.

First, this is the Harris County Sheriff's department, not the Houston Police Department. The latter polices the incorporated city of Houston, the former the unincorporated parts of Harris county. HPD is a professional outfit. The sherriff's department is not.

Second, there is literally a new sheriff in town. Adrian Garcia defeated Tommy Thomas in this year's election. Thomas, a 20 year veteran of the sheriffs office, attracted contrversy for racist emails his officers sent around to each other. Also, under Thomas, the sheriff's office lost a civil rights suit for assaulting two Houstonians who videotaped a drug raid. Then, to make it worse, the sheriff's had his officers spy on the two, hoping to "dig up dirt" against them. More on Thomas at Garcia's campaign site.

Not many folks in Houston are going to defend the sheriff's office (and to see the worst of it, google "ida lee delaney"). But, for some reason, Vikram, my non-Houstonian brother-in-kram, is up to the task. "Shrew", Vikram? That's not the kind of language us Krams use. Shame, shame. It's a krime, its a kalumny, and its a krummy way to behave. But us krams stick together, so lay off Vikram. Please.

"The idea behind the birth of Sach Productions is the creation of an agency that uses the film media to further the Sikh cause."

What is the "Sikh cause"? I thought we all had only one cause and that is the South Asian cause.

>>The deputies should be chucked out of the Harris County PD, so that more deserving men and women get a chance...

...unless these new men and women come from the same social pool who become a part of the system. What then?

Abuse of power by cops has always been directly proportional to the amount of role the Government plays in people's lives. Just look what's happening in Greece, as an example. This is a society where the Government has its fingers in everything - and hence the system is atrophying rapidly. The cops are just like your DMV clerk, municipal inspector, Energy czar, Health-care reform czar, Auto czar or Wall street bailout czar - but with a gun. As the Government does more and more things, it will fail to do it's most basic function - protect the civilians.

Reduce the role and power of Government, and such incidents will be minimal.

M. Nam

What if the Sikh family makes these allegations and the officers deny?
Would this all be caught on the dashboard cam? If not, this would be a case of he says, she says. How does the court decide who's saying the truth?

One deputy reportedly asked them if they’d “heard about the bombings in Bombay.”

atleast he was up on current events.....

When will this Sikh = Muslim = Trouble nonsense end? Can people really be that dumb?

Muslims = Troubles will end once Muslims are associated with terrorism,violence, etc to the same extent as any other community. I do not see this happening anytime soon.

Until them Sikhs should raise their profile in America as a distinct Non -Muslim community (This includes vehemently denying being Muslims) until it becomes part of the public consciousness.

What if you call a cop because you want to report your tv missing and when the cop comes to make a report of the crime he see's your sister or mother in the kitchen cooking a steak for dinner and she is using a knife to cut it, is the cop going to get scared and point a taser at your mother or sister or cooking dinner and demand the knife be put away? I dont think so.

I also read that at the peak of this situation 12 police officers were called to the home. Really?

It's a trifle insulting to call people dumb because they mistake Sikhs for Muslims. Sikhs come from a part of the word with a whole lot of Muslims, and share many of the physical features , cultural norms and customs as their Islamic neighbors. They were turbans which is rare in America. On the other hand many iconic images of Muslim figures are depicted in a turban (like the Ayatollahs).

Until them Sikhs should raise their profile in America as a distinct Non -Muslim community (This includes vehemently denying being Muslims) until it becomes part of the public consciousness.

Dizzy -

1. It doesn't work. Bigots aren't interested in distinguishing between different types of "others"
2. I have no desire to tell people "beat them up not us!" It's wrong unless you want to create a two tiered system of rights, one for Muslims and the other for "good people"

Like it or not, Sikhs are in it with Muslims one way or another. To a smaller extent, other brown folks are too, which is how the British Police ended up killing a Brazilian. Heck, there have been incidents in airplanes that have involved Orthodox Jews (passengers complained that they felt unsafe when the Jewish passengers started praying).

Haven't you ever read Pastor Niemoller?

56 · Jef Costello said

No uniformed force worth its name--whether the police in Mumbai, the Indian army, the USMC, or the Harris County PD--will accept bigoted behavior in its ranks, let alone in its name.

What does this saccharine hyperbole even mean?

57 · MoorNam said

Reduce the role and power of Government, and such incidents will be minimal.

So you're saying that individuals and private companies can police the police better than the public can? You really believe that?

"...which is how the British Police ended up killing a [brown] Brazilian."

Maybe so, but about the 7/11 case, look again.
The Brazilian wasn't exactly brown. In fact, as Brazilians go, he was quite white(ish),to judge from the photo. Now this is significant not because it disproves cop racism but because of the person for whom Menezes was mistaken....who really was quite brown.

http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2005/08/17/menezes_osman_wideweb__430x253.jpg

Those latter day Sherlock Holmses cum gestapo apparently "mistook" him for a light-skinned black guy named Hussain Osman. Look again. I don't think so, though if you're convinced all Brazilians look alike and can be mistaken for brown people anywhere else in the world, well...you've given them an alibi.

Menezes was shot 7 times close up execution style after he had entered the tube at a normal pace, picking up a free newspaper on the way. After the police -- or whoever they were -- cleared the car, the poor guy was surrounded by said police(?) who were not dressed or identified as regular police according to the tube witnesses who stood outside the train. I know times have changed, but Bobbies are not known for carrying out summary executions. They have specialists for that.

LOL. The executioners didn't "mistake" him for Osman. He knew something he shouldn't have known, but didn't know he shouldn't have known--sure didn't know he was being hunted. So everybody was screaming about the Brazilian and xenophobia. So much the better--they're used to that. Meanwhile the salient facts of the story slide into the pandora's box of conspiracy theories.

There's so much other weird stuff that happened that day, 7/11, that it's 9/11's little brother in anomalies. Like the "bandaged" man supposedly injured by explosions who was described by a concerned Jamaican witness who had stopped to help, scooting off as soon as the cameras turned away.

It'll all come out in the next century.

My cousin and his wife got held at gunpoint, tied up in their own house and robbed. It followed a pattern of immigrant retail shoopkeepers getting robbed when they return home. yet the cops showed total disinterest. No real concern when they came to the house. They weren't abusive to my cousin's family, but they could care less.

I have no respect for such cops. Whenever i get pulled over by cops with white friends, i notice much better behavior by the cops. It is not true in every case, of course, as I met quite a few good cops. But I believe the Sikh family here. If it was a good old Texan boy with a shotgun, they would have asked him nicely to put it down.

My cousin's robbery was in Houston too by the way (Sugarland).

46 · Divya said

So, even if I am not Sikh, even if I am not desi, even if I don't care about Sikhs or Muslims or social justice, even if I am totally and completely 100% selfish, I still have an interest in seeing the police officers in question disciplined for this incident.

This is a good way to put such incidents in perspective. Even if this was white on white or black on black injustice, it is injustice nevertheless. This part of the equation tends to get lost when religion and ethnicity are discussed. It's hard to leave these factors out of this discussion of course since they are relevant to the case, but I think it tends to obscure the larger point about the injustice.

Thanks Divya. Although the situation isn't completely similar, I am thinking of Abhijit Mahato's murderer, who went on to kill Eve Carson about a month later. Due to typical media bias Eve Carson got more attention - blonde, white, young, and a student body president - and I don't place one tragedy above the other, but if Mahato's death had gotten the same urgency and outrage, maybe Carson would still be alive. (Um, and I'm not trying to imply the argument that "we have to stop people who hurt desis before they hurt WHITE PEOPLE!!" - just saying that it is ultimately self-defeating for a society to make excuses when police officers screw up this badly.)

38 · sizzle said

once i was standing in a crowd of spectators after a big sporting event, a fair distance from some commotion and celebratory riots.

This news coming on the heels of this incident where an airline pilot forced three eminent sikh singers off his plane!

From chron.com (Houston Chronicle online)-

Next sheriff vows Sikh aid: Garcia promises investigation into allegations against Harris deputies

The image of Sheriff-elect Garcia putting on a turban with the help of a Sikh gentlemen is most compelling...I hope he is able to transform attitudes during his tenure.

72 · Margin Fades said

From chron.com (Houston Chronicle online)-

Next sheriff vows Sikh aid: Garcia promises investigation into allegations against Harris deputies

The image of Sheriff-elect Garcia putting on a turban with the help of a Sikh gentlemen is most compelling...I hope he is able to transform attitudes during his tenure.

Hate to be pedantic, but the guy is putting on a bandanna. NOT a turban.

hmmm, I dont know about this one...
I would wait to see where the evidence falls.
With that said, If my feeling turns out not to be true, hopefuly there would be punitive action.
But I dont like the idea of 74 about turbaned sikhs being on the force....
Whats the qualification ?
Why all ethnicities must be represented in police force weather or not they have qualification or not.
I also find my self in agreement with the minority position here which is possession of a weapon infront of law enforcement
is a stupid idea to say the least....

This is one of my greatest fear of most Americans - they feel and act as if they know a lot, but actually don't. An arrogant person who is also ignorant is the most dangerous person in the world.

white cops in texas...do you really expect them to act any different.

Research how black people have been treated in Texas and this event will seem like the cops where actually very nice.

79 · Jef Costello said

Hyperbole for Harbeer ...

Enough hyperbole already, let's have some hyper boliaan!

(Though I wouldn't necessarily characterize #79 as hyperbole...it's more like some kind of lame attempt at being snarky.)

81 · Jef Costello said

Kaka, you either have a point to make or are just feeling lonely.

Bapu, you're "points" are nothing but a bunch of unsubstantiated conjecture, generalizations, and overwrought bluster. I'm still waiting for you to explain what you meant in comment 56.